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Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Two initial thoughts: 1. This author's writing is extremely, uncommonly good. Good enough to write a book and have it sell. "Competing with the past of the economy," "residual behaviour of a world that treated labour as sacred," "immigration without immigrants" -- there are many elegant turns of phrase here. This is a very skilled writer. 2. His resume is designed poorly. Have a look. I'm not surprised his job search…

I don't believe for a second that an intern did all of that stuff.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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The most baffling thing is that even now the H1Bs, etc. are still pouring in. How can you say there is a shortage of IT talent and you need to import them where most grads can't find any work?

Are junior / new grads getting sponsored for H1Bs, or senior people?

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Two initial thoughts: 1. This author's writing is extremely, uncommonly good. Good enough to write a book and have it sell. "Competing with the past of the economy," "residual behaviour of a world that treated labour as sacred," "immigration without immigrants" -- there are many elegant turns of phrase here. This is a very skilled writer. 2. His resume is designed poorly. Have a look. I'm not surprised his job search…

It seems suspiciously over punctuated to my eyes.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Large AI siloes, if allowed to exist, will bifurcate humanity. People who have a stake in those AI companies will no longer need the rest of the population to provide goods and services. We will split into two economies, where the lower economy is forever indebted to the upper economy for the bones they occasionally throw for free. This is why we must break the siloes and give the tech to as many people as possible.…

> We will split into two economies, where the lower economy is forever indebted to the upper economy for the bones they occasionally throw for free. That's how it's been my entire adult life.

Maybe, but not quite. Wages increased modestly and real estate prices have increased... substantially. Today's young adults are basically incapable of buying a place to live anywhere remotely close to a place where they could work to earn for it.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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> These issues are very widespread. I’d say under 10% of junior résumés I look at give me confidence that they’d show up and know how to write real systems instead of just gluing things together. You’re looking for seniors with junior pay grades.

When I hire, I always look at personal github projects. They are a hint that the person loves coding and loves creating software. I'm not looking for 1000 stars projects, and I don't even look at the kind of project, just the fact that the candidate has done some work in his spare time. If there's no github project, I ask the candidate what website, web communities he watches/participates in regularly. I check if the…

While those are certainly indicators of interest, is their absence an indicator of lack of interest? In other words, "has side projects" is sufficient to prove "likes programming", but I don't think it's necessary.

There's only 24 hours in a day, and mastering any serious curriculum already takes the majority of those.

Then there's family: some have parents to support, and/or a spouse they can't just ignore all evening to sit in front of a terminal typing git push.

Lastly, plenty of people learn or tinker on their own, but they don't all have the (socioeconomically loaded) reflex of marketing themselves with a github repo.

Of my whole Bachelor's, Master's and PhD cohorts, I haven't known one person to have a github repo outside of employment. Some were building little things on the side but sharing them informally, never in public.

What you're looking for is people with no social life, no responsibilities towards anyone or anything (even just being an immigrant can be a huge time and energy sink), and with the social background to confidently market themselves by putting what's objectively noise online.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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From what I've seen, CS/programming job growth is significantly worse than in other comparable fields. Though my guess is that's a retrenchment from overhiring and overpaying.

I would expect CS doing better than EE or Physics or Chemistry or ME ... In some science fields good luck getting a job if you don't have a Ph.D. But otherwise, yes, these things are cyclical. But I think the trend, even with AI, is still towards more software. We've had explosive growth over the last few decades.

One thing I see at my Alma mater is that a lot of the non CS degrees now have explicit variants of $field plus software.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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I always feel a bit conflicted when I read these experience from new grads: on the one hand, there's no question the job market today is not the one they signed up for; on the other, the expectation of recent grads is completely alien to me as someone who entered the job market in the shadow of the dotcom bust. The biggest thing that seems foreign to me is the expectation that "I'm a fit for the job, I should therefo…

I feel a lot of the same conflict, and I don't know how much of it is just because times are different now.

My first job was at a tiny local marketing agency building portfolio websites, for 1.5x the Aus minimum wage. As a computer science graduate. I'm pretty sure those kinds of jobs don't exist anymore - they've all been outsourced to Wix or Squarespace.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Reading the posters cv and experience, I suspect they have a skill gap in theory of mind. ie, understanding how they are perceived. Sure, the economy is hard, and finding a job is difficult. Questions I have - What jobs are they applying for? - Do they understand the benefits they can bring to a team? - Are they showing up in interactions like they show up in this blog post? How can they take radical responsibility f…

‘Nobody hires juniors’ is a possibility, too

Maybe 'no-one doing whiz-bang AI research is hiring juniors'. I really doubt that 'no-one anywhere in the tech industry is hiring juniors'.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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> Not enough trades persons, building supplies, capital to solve that problem No, "not enough people" is corporate speak for "the public should train our workers for us"

One of the most frustrating things in my lifetime: Company CEO paid-orders-of-magnitude-more-than-median-employee: "Not enough local people with XYZ skills!" Skilled local person: "I'm right here, just pay me properly." Unskilled local person: "I'm right here, train me and I'll do it even at your low wage." Local educational institution: "We could run training courses if you want to work with us on that!" ... CEO: "G…

Don't forget, if you oppose the CEO you're Xenophobic, racist and far-right!
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