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ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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When are citizens’ fingerprints normally put on file, in the US? Or, for that matter, noncitizens who entered irregularly?

Anyone going thru the process of getting licensed as a stockbroker is fingerprinted (Series 63, 7 test) Its possible that insurance broker license is the same. Same for pharmacist. I think a lot of US trades have fingerprinting as requisite, particularly if they require a background check.

Truck drivers and substitute schoolteachers too (I was a sub teacher at one point and the closest place to go to get fingerprinted was a truck driving school.)

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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They would call and say what? "Go home you crazy weaponized narcissist, you're drunk on power and delusions of techo authoritarianism." If you're challenging someone who can hurt you, you should not approach until you are highly confident you are going to win, whatever that looks like. I hope the folks mentioned are, and continue to remain, somewhere safe while this plays out.

More like they'd come out publicly against what Thiel and Palantir are doing, given that they are members of, and colleagues within, the same communities of moneyed tech leadership.

And...what would that change about what Thiel and Palantir doing? A strongly worded letter will not lead to meaningful change against someone who does not care.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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What do the 9/11 terrorists have to do with the US federal government using federal police to enforce immigration law largely against illegal immigrants from Latin America, decades later? Osama bin Laden had a fairly specific immediate poltical goal, resisting US military influence in Muslim countries and US support of Israel. His broader goals involved revolutionary Islamic fundamentalism in the Muslim countries of…

> What do the 9/11 terrorists have to do with the US federal government using federal police to enforce immigration law largely against illegal immigrants from Latin America, decades later? The centralized security apparatus in the Department of Homeland Security being leverage here exists entirely as a result of the reaction to 9/11.

No, 9/11 did nothing more than give Americans permission to fully activate our latent racism, nationalism, xenophobia, and bigotry, which existed long before 9/11. The problem with America is we are racist to our core, and we'll do absolutely everything and anything to prove it to the world time and time again.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Don’t fall for the lie that this is at all about illegal immigration- that is just an excuse for what has become state sponsored KKK style racial terrorism operating completely outside the law. Videos all over the Internet show them violently attacking and terrorizing hispanic looking people with no concern for if they are citizens or not. At the Wilder raid in Idaho they were shooting children with rubber bullets, a…

It is absolutely insane that the party who tried on the Libertarian mask less than 20 years ago and rode high on a wave of "don't tread on me" individual liberty is now suddenly ok with masked thugs scanning everyone's faces for their master database of enemies of the state.

The only difference between today and 20 years ago is the war machine is being directed against Americans rather than foreigners. 20 years ago people called GWB a fascist for his actions in Iraq, and Americans said it was hyperbole and everything that was happening was patriotic. 20 years later, it's the same shit, different country, and white people are the victims, so it's easier for folx to recognize this as fascism.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Question for a future (2026?) dystopia: if our faces aren't secret or private for 4A/5A purposes, can we start making them secret/private by walking around in public with a balaclava? New norms go both ways.

What about using technology to scan and identify faces of those who oppress?

Related and recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45734369

(Not scanning faces, but continuously monitoring yourself to prove innocence. Depressing.)

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In Wolfenstein, the main character shot Nazi soldiers. It was made back when we had shared societal values like fascism is bad. Today, such a game would be called a product of tHe rAdIcAl lEfT.

This has unironically already happened. https://www.mic.com/articles/185045/wolfenstein-ii-nazi-kill...

holy crap, that is hilarious

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The Netherlands has a law that makes it illegal to cover your face. Officially this is to help the police but its also a great tool against religion. Constitution>god

God wants our faces covered?

Some religions say their God wants some people covered, like women.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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I'm somewhat morbidly curious how many citizens we're going to deport to random countries. It happened fairly often before this administration.

Can you give me some specific examples of deported citizens?

You can check the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_...

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I'm coming from the same basic perspective as you describe, and always tried hard to see people in the best light and sympathize with their concerns, but am no longer finding that possible in this situation, and it is disheartening. The only explanation for the core MAGA supporters that I can come up with is that it is a sort of loose coalition of people that feel disaffected and judged by society for various reasons…

It turns out that the 'basket of deplorables' was, in fact, calling a spade a spade.

The comment was true, but political suicide
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