So, rather than Big Brother being government-imposed monitoring paid for by all taxpayers, the concerned citizenry is flipping the bill for the devices, network connectivity and electricity. Fascinating.
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#352So, rather than Big Brother being government-imposed monitoring paid for by all taxpayers, the concerned citizenry is flipping the bill for the devices, network connectivity and electricity. Fascinating.
always, flock just charges local governments and then charges the police too to get access. They get us coming and going, and yet most crimes and murders go unsolved still. If a cop can track his Ex through hundreds of cams, why aren't the solve rates better? (Its not about crime)
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn't seem to work for me. Can you correct my query/URL? https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=surveillance%3Aty...
The search directly on osm.org is optimzied for address things. For a "complete" search in the OpenStreetMap-data I suggest [Overpass Turbo]( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo ). In this specific case I'd take a little detour over taginfo ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taginfo ), e.g. search for `surveillance` ( https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=surveillance ) there. A little bit of c…
Fantastic! Thank you :)
However, even ALPR doesn't show any devices for me:
I'm glad citizens in the EU are more on top of this. I really wish we as USA citizens had access to the same database of GPS coordinates for each Blink, Ring, and Amazon Key device that police do. Does anyone know how/if something like that could be FOIA'd? This seems it would be particularly fruitful if FBI/DHS has a comprehensive dataset for the entire nation.
Though I do worry that they may not "have" the dataset, but rather just have "access" to it via a queryable Amazon/Palantir database/API.
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#355Unifi G4 Doorbell Pro [0] is a great self-hosted option. I've been very happy with mine over the last year, but I was already bought into the unifi ecosystem with a UDM Pro SE and U6 mesh APs. 0: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/cameras-doorbells/collec...
I have a Unifi Protect system and am generally pretty happy with it. The biggest problem I have is similar in spirit to the Ring problem: remote access is required to get push alerts from the mobile app. Unifi had an issue at the end of 2023 where users could access consoles they didn't own through remote access: https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/15/ubiquiti_camera_priva... If I (or more specifically my spouse) cou…
I have the same UI protect system w 7 cameras. After that incident, I made it local only. I like Unifi gear, but I became super paranoid after that incident.
After some digging around, I found homebridge [0] (with the homebridge-unifi-protect plugin by hjdhjd [1]) which fixed that for me by tying the UI Protect system into Apple's HomeKit ecosystem (which also leverages the homekit secure video that keeps alerts/motion/snapshots on iCloud). Now all our devices are able to have it popup alerts for motions, packages, etc.
It's not perfect, but this way I'm able to get alerts without tying in to Unifi's SSO system. I also still like to open the UI Protect app when I'm not on the local network to sometimes archive videos, view cameras, mess with one of the new UI PTZ cameras, so I have backup access options, including Tailscale. Tailscale doesn't give me the alerts I want, but lets me access the app as if I were still at home. I also have it tied in with HomeAssistant and recently began playing around with go2rtc.
I'm a super-newb when it comes to all this but 2022 is when I began getting fed up with all these privacy nightmares and began to teach myself selfhosting, docker, etc so I can mitigate all this. Unfortunately, I'm the only one who knows how to tinker and keep all this updated. However, I do have documentation for my wife how to access everything and start fresh to make it easier on her by using UI's SSO way so it "just works" as they say in the Macintosh World, when I'm no longer around.
[0] https://homebridge.io/ [1] https://github.com/hjdhjd/homebridge-unifi-protect#readme
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#356It was only a matter of time.
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#357Flock is funded and supported by YC. Not sure how YC sees this.
This is YC.
In case you haven't noticed, the surveillance state is 100% YC adjacent.
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#358This is the logical conclusion to the state of irrational fear that Americans perpetually live in, that causes them to feel they need 24/7 surveillance of their homes, no matter the consequences.
Yup! I've had my car stolen and broken into in the past. So I have a rational fear the same thing could happen to my house, so I have a ring system. Out of respect for my neighbors, I'll go the E2EE pathway and make sure my camera isn't tilted towards the road, but I'm not going without cameras again.
The camera will not prevent it.
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#359Everybody is a libertarian when their political opposition has power.
The corollary is that, when in power, many "libertarians" are only concerned with their own rights and nobody else's, failing to understand that any rights they give up for others may soon be lost for them too. It's just the brown people who are put in detention centers, isn't it?
Do you believe burglars have more rights in your home and to your things than you do? Then why do you apply that logic to others that then must suffer your abusive imposition of abuse? How about you just abuse yourself if you want to abuse.
Why does in your mind a "brown person" that is a foreign national who broke the law in and of America by entering and/or remaining in the USA, have more rights to have a job, make money, and even receive public assistance in America than a non-"brown person" that is a legitimate citizen of the USA?
What is worse, is that you don't even understand that your support of this kind of lawlessness is only for the purpose of allowing the rich to plunder the working and lower middle class, the real victims that through your words and actions hate with a passion.
Sure, burglars also benefit from burglarizing, but that does not make it any better than foreign nationals benefitting while the rich also use them like some crime boss in control of a burglary ring. How do you think, e.g., the home builders who make ~30% gross profit on homes that are poorly built due to "immigrant labor" report triple digit billion dollar returns?
You people baffle me that you cannot connect two dots as you at the same time lament that wages are too low, as you support floods of wage decreasing supply flooding "immigration".
No one is targeting "brown people" they just happen to be the majority of brown people the ruling class loves importing to profit from at the expense of the indigenous people, just like when the British and Hispanics did it through slavery. You are no different than the slavery rationalizers of the 17th-19th century. Today the ruling class just figured out how to manipulate you into supporting importation of brown people to undermine the indigenous people, and you don't have the intellect or integrity to understand you are being manipulated.
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
The corollary is that, when in power, many "libertarians" are only concerned with their own rights and nobody else's, failing to understand that any rights they give up for others may soon be lost for them too. It's just the brown people who are put in detention centers, isn't it?
Do you believe burglars have more rights in your home and to your things than you do? Then why do you apply that logic to others that then must suffer your abusive imposition of abuse? How about you just abuse yourself if you want to abuse. Why does in your mind a "brown person" that is a foreign national who broke the law in and of America by entering and/or remaining in the USA, have more rights to have a job, make…
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Do you believe burglars have more rights in your home and to your things than you do?
Do you believe that you aren't presenting a ridiculous false dichotomy?