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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by jowea »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #278
zaptheimpaler wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And game devs throwing random shit into My Documents was also fun. I hate this problem with all OSes. We have folders that started out being places for users to put things like Pictures, Documents & home, but over time they get filled with crap from software and it's difficult to find your own files. We should have had a "program-files" subfolder or something by default in all these places to separate things that a…

We do! On Windows, it's (user profile)\AppData. And to be fair, most software does use that. But there are always bad citizens that don't care and clutter up the user's documents folder.

Speaking for myself, but I would my game saves and config in the cloud if I were using OneDrive. That is however a separate issue from whether those files should be in the hidden appdata or in the visible my documents.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by dingdingdang »

rootusrootus wrote: post #234
Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

The only, as per personal exp, way to properly setup a Win11 machine these days is strictly via LTSC release and WinUtil from Chris Titus + local account - clean and no "feature" updates for almost 10 yrs. Add to that Chocolatey for package management that takes away the "every piece of software adds it's own autoupdater crap"-pain and the OS is suddenly very capable for almost all computing needs.

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Post by fainpul »

brirec wrote: post #41

> Do you think Microsoft understands consent? > ( ) Yes > (•) Remind me in 3 days

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by hulitu »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #107
soupbowl wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During a major update it will be reinstalled.

Nuts. Is this still true? I just setup a Win11 Pro machine for a very non-technical person. Uninstalled OneDrive, hoping to minimize future pain when 90% of the needs are just a web browser and storing camera pictures. (No, Linux was not an option)

> Nuts. Is this still true?

Yes. Microsoft wants to protect you. /s

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by radley »

vee-kay wrote: post #299
zwnow wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People dont care about their operating system. Most Mac users never learn Mac and most Windows users never learn windows. They use their computers for emails, some presentations and occasional gaming. They dont want to learn different kinds of software. Which is fine. For most people its just a power tool they never read the manual for. They dont even know what other tools there are so they dont know that life could…

I just wish MacOS would allow me to have the Minimize, Maximize/Restore,Close buttons on top-right corner (default in Windows), rather than top-left (which is counter-intuitive for right-handed users, using the mouse). Even Linux allows such basic customization. If Apple allowed this type of user-friendly customisation on MacOS, I suspect a lot of Windows users will migrate to Mac.

> I just wish MacOS would allow me to have the Minimize, Maximize/Restore,Close buttons on top-right corner (default in Windows), rather than top-left (which is counter-intuitive for right-handed users, using the mouse).

Classic Mac OS was released first, with well-considered, consistent design standards. Windows arrived almost 2 years later, and in the interest of not looking it like copied Macs, Microsoft essentially flipped the positions of everything, including window controls, toolbars, desktop icon placement, and button order. (Yes, both copied Bell Labs).

Windows has no standards, so maybe they could provide that kind of option instead.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by JohnTHaller »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #48

Hope the PM in charge with the scammy copy designed to trick people into turning this on is happy with the boost in free users falling for it. My dad turned it on not knowing what it meant and it completely messed up his workflows and now I have to figure out how to safely disable it and move his files back. I will remember Microsoft causing this problem for him every time I think of or get asked if someone should us…

A family friend upgraded to Windows 11 and had it helpfully turned on personal files being OneDrive enabled. It ate up her free space and suddenly she couldn't receive or reply to email anymore. She was nearly 80 and had no idea why until she had randomly asked me to help her with something on her computer.

This is an instance of Microsoft being evil.

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Post by distances »

crote wrote: post #132
nolist_policy wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting how ChromeOS respects your choices more than Windows here. There is a setting to disable Google Drive and it just works. It won't auto-enable, no popups or nags or anything. Even Google Docs/Workspace falls back to a trimmed down offline version.

On the other hand, Android keeps nagging me about enabling backups in Google Photos. I'm always one accidental click of the huge "Okay!" button in an unexpected popup away from having my data being uploaded to Google.

This was a genuinely baffling product decision. I couldn't continue using Photos due to this nagging dialog.

Google has another photo gallery app called just Gallery, that's what I'm now using.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by mrandish »

9x39 wrote: post #174
mrandish wrote: post #167

What makes this even worse is that MSFT doesn't just do it with their "free", subsidized or bundled versions. They also do it to users who are using the full paid versions of the OS and Office. I paid an extra hundred dollars to get Windows Pro pre-installed on my laptop and a key reason I did so was to avoid this crap. But they still have all the same upsells and dark patterns. All Windows Pro gives me is the very c…

I hear where you're coming from. The corporate shops customize fleets with group policy and InTune, and it's a hassle to do the same one-off at home. You might get traction with trying the IOT LTSC versions, which are often very stripped down. Used to be LTSB, then LTSC, but now on 11 I think you need to opt for IOT LTSC which is different than just LTSC. IOT LTSC will have half the processes out of the box and less…

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll put it on the list for when I'm next forced to reinstall. That's when I'll take a hard look at how well I can replicate the Windows experience (back when it was still good) on Linux.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by qwerty456127 »

Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

> especially with how My Documents is handled

I stopped using these long ago because every other app you install puts something there so it becomes a landfill automatically.

Just create an additional partition and put all your non-OS files there. This is a classic idea people have been using since the DOS days, still working great.

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