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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by password4321 »

rendx wrote: post #162
mijoharas wrote: post #151

Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)

I use imapsync. Yes you can limit it to mails sent or received in a certain timespan. https://imapsync.lamiral.info/FAQ.d/FAQ.Archiving.txt

I'm guessing imapsync could be used to transfer email into Gmail to replace this POP client feature that is being removed, as long as it can sync into a folder.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by xp84 »

yaur wrote: post #133
xp84 wrote: post #41

Hypothesis: This feature is actually a very serviceable way for a small business or individual to have a branded email address on very cheap email hosting, while getting Gmail features for free. Google wants such people to be paying for Google Workspace if they don't want to be advertising the Gmail brand on their address.

POP has been a problematic protocol since 2000 or so.

Perhaps for main email-management use, but it perfectly fits the model of yanking a single stream of email from server A to load into server B - without resorting to forwarding, which is problematic because the middlemen don’t want the spam that gets forwarded to reflect poorly upon their IP reputation.

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Post by pbreit »

DominikPeters wrote: post #145
pbreit wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMAP, which is MUCH better at doing the same thing, is still supported.

It is not supported. You can only add an IMAP mailbox on the mobile app and not on gmail.com. The IMAP account is then displayed as an inbox completely separate from your gmail inbox. There is no pull and no integration.

Ah, I see, I think you're right. I misread the Google doc.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by mijoharas »

carlosjobim wrote: post #350
mijoharas wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My problem is I don't want to keep my entire email downloaded, but to periodically back things up. Do you use your email client to periodically backup? (I would like it automated). Do you use thunderbird or something else if so?

E-Mails don't take up that much space for it to be any issue to me. Every five years or so I clean out some of the old ones and leave them only in backups.

I don't use a local mail client. Is there one you'd recommend?

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by hsn915 »

suzzer99 wrote: post #119

I finally figured out the confusion here. What a terribly worded article. Could mean two different things: 1) Some kind of third-party account (whatever that is) can no longer check (fetch) emails from Gmail via POP. I have a test suite that uses POP to fetch emails from Gmail, so this concerns me. 2) Gmail itself can no longer fetch emails from other email accounts over POP (a feature I had no idea existed). I guess…

Oh? I had no idea it could mean #2 until I saw this comment.

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Post by andrewshadura »

mustaphah wrote: post #68
andrewshadura wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what I thought too until I moved to Fastmail. It certainly isn't worse.

Fastmail is great. It's just that I'm not willing to pay 5$ each month to send 5 emails from @mydomain.com. 1$ per email is too much, right?

I have all of my mail (and all of my domains) there, that makes it a fair deal. It also fetches from gmail and other places.

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Post by krageon »

mijoharas wrote: post #347
krageon wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://isync.sourceforge.io/mbsync.html It's the most performant solution that's also mature. I've used it for years to retrieve all of my email accounts (of which gmail is one) to a folder that I also backup.

Is there any way to only get a subset of the mail (i.e. only changes in last week). I don't think I want all my email on my local machine, but I do think I want it all in the backups. I couldn't see anything digging in.

I have not tried to do this, but I think you can set MaxMessages in your config to achieve something like this. If I'm understanding correctly, it essentially does a tail on your mailbox. The latest X messages will be kept, where X is the number after MaxMessages: https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/isync/mbsync.1.en.html#...
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