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> And we're introducing Cameo, giving you the power to step into any world or scene, and letting your friends cast you in theirs. How much are they (and providers of similar tools) going to be able to keep anyone from putting anyone else in a video, shown doing and saying whatever the tool user wants? Will some only protect politicians and celebrities? Will the less-famous/less-powerful of us be harassed, defamed, ex…

Basically deepfakes for everyone.

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A little tangential to this announcement, but is anyone aware of any clean/ethical models for AI video or image generation (i.e. not trained on copyright work?) that are available publicly?

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I wonder how this will affect the large cinema production companies (Disney, WB, Universal, Sony, Paramount, 20th century...). The global film market share was estimated to be 100B in 2023. If the production cost of high FX movies like Avengers Infinity War goes down from 300M$ to just 10K$ in a couple of years, will companies like Disney restrain themselves to just release a few epic movies per year? Or will we be flooded with tons of slop? If this kind of AI content keeps getting better, how will movies sustain our attention and feel 'special'? Will people not care if an actor is AI or real?

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Wow that is dark, after Ghiblis staunch stance on AI. These companies and their shareholders really are complete scum in my eyes, just like AI in miltech. Not because the tech isn't super interesting but because they steal years of hard work and pain from actual artists with zero compensation - and then they brag about it in the most horrible way possible, with zero empathy. Then comes losing the little humanity left…

Indeed is difficult to NOT share this resentment, should anyone understand what actually happens.

People are willingly blind.

Kids are happy that homework takes less time. Teachers are happy that grading the generated homework takes less time. Programmers are happy they can write the same amount of code in less time. Graphic designers are happy they can get an SVG from a vague description immediately. Writers are happy they can generate filler from a few bullet points quickly.

But then someone comes along, notices people are not working most of the time, fires three quarters of them and demands 4x increased output from the rest. And they can do it because the "AI" is helping them.

Except they don't get paid any more. The company makes the same amount of money for less cost.

So where does the difference go? To the already rich who own the company and the product.

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I saw a famous actor-director (can't remember who, but an A-list guy) said it would be super valuable even if you only use it for establishing shots. Like you have an exterior shot of a cabin, the surrounding environment, etc — all generated. Then you jump inside which can be shot on a traditional set in a studio. Getting that establishing shot in real life might cost $30K to find a location, get the crew there, etc.…

Probably Ben Affleck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypURoMU3P3U

Casey Affleck is currently shooting a horror vampire period piece using Comfy UI and an Unreal Engine Volume. The AI is used for the background plates. It's just a test, but it's happening right now.

Jason Blum is also getting really into the tech.

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> And we're introducing Cameo, giving you the power to step into any world or scene, and letting your friends cast you in theirs. How much are they (and providers of similar tools) going to be able to keep anyone from putting anyone else in a video, shown doing and saying whatever the tool user wants? Will some only protect politicians and celebrities? Will the less-famous/less-powerful of us be harassed, defamed, ex…

it seems like this is basically youtube's ContentID, but for your face. as long as you upload your "cameo" aka facial scan to them, they can recognize and control the generation of videos with it. if you don't give them your face, then they can't/won't. "Consent-based likeness. Our goal is to place you in control of your likeness end-to-end with Sora. We have guardrails intended to ensure that your audio and image li…

If this company's guardrails end up sufficiently working well in practice (note phrases like "intended", "take measures", and "preferences...requested", on things they can't do 100%)... there will be weak links elsewhere, letting similar computation be performed without sufficiently effective guardrails against abuse?

How do we prepare for this? Societal adjustment only (e.g., disbelieving defamatory video, accepting what pervs will do)? Establishing a common base of cultural expectations for conduct? Increasing deterrence for abusers?

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OpenAI apparently assumes that the primary users of Sora 2/the Sora app will be Gen Z, especially with the demo examples shown in the livestream. If they are trying to pull users from TikTok with this, it won't work: there's some nuance to Gen Z interests than being quirky and random, and if they did indeed pull users from TikTok then ByteDance could easily include their own image/video generators. Sora 2 itself as a…

Good point. I think OpenAI lacks the cultural understanding that tiktok is providing their users not only with entertainment but also social things like trends, reviews, gossip, self-expression. These aspects are not included in the sora experience.

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> And we're introducing Cameo, giving you the power to step into any world or scene, and letting your friends cast you in theirs. How much are they (and providers of similar tools) going to be able to keep anyone from putting anyone else in a video, shown doing and saying whatever the tool user wants? Will some only protect politicians and celebrities? Will the less-famous/less-powerful of us be harassed, defamed, ex…

Basically deepfakes for everyone.

Honestly this is the safest possible outcome.

If Deepfakes remain the tools of nation state actors, laypeople will be easily fooled.

If Deepfakes are available on your iPhone and within TikTok, everyone will just ask "Is it Photoshop?" for every shred of doubt. (In fact, I already see people saying, "This looks like AI".)

This is good. Normalize the magic until it isn't magic anymore.

People will get it. They're smart. They just need exposure.

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I genuinely don't understand the consistent rhetoric on this site of: > new AI feature/model comes out > "it's going to replace people in this field! they better start looking for a new job!!!" why is this a good thing?

It’s not a good thing, but it’s definitely a thing. Most of us here on HN are going to be affected by this.

How many more years do you think you'll need to keep saying this before it's actually true?

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I downloaded the app but I get a "Sora is invite only" screen after logging in to my OpenAI account and asking for an invite code.

> You can sign up in-app for a push notification when access opens for your account. You need to be in the US/Canada and wait for this notification, and when you get an invite you can start using it in the app and on sora.com. And apparently you get 4 more invite codes that you can share with anyone, e.g. Android users: > Android users will be able to access Sora 2 via http://sora.com once you have an invite code fro…

It's wild that I have a paid account but I have to scour the Internet to find someone else with a paid account and beg them for an invite code to use the product I already paid for. Make it make sense.
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