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Re: Kagi News

#351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just for concrete confirmation that LLM(s) are being used, there's an open issue on the GitHub repository, on hallucinations with made up information, where a Kagi employee specifically mentions "an LLM hallucination problem": https://github.com/kagisearch/kite-public/issues/97 There's also a line at the bottom of the about page at https://kite.kagi.com/about that says "Summaries may contain errors. Please verify imp…

Love how it only took 8 years to go from "Fake News!" to "News May Be Fake"

At least we're going from Fake News from certain MAGA leaning sources at 75-90% fake to 99% actual news and 1% hallucinations?

Re: Kagi News

#352
After poking around for half an hour or so, I think I'm going back to ground news :) . I love most kagi products but this one is going to need some more love I think.

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#353

I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.

How is Proton over extending? All of their services are pretty great imo. I'm happy with them. Doesn't mean I am ever going to use their bitcoin wallet app thing, but if they want to build it, great, they know their customer base so it's probably not out of left field.

In the drive mobile app you cant even download a folder. There has been issues opened on it for almost a year now and since then they've opened two entirely new services and added many extra features.

When you're paying for something you expect the basics to be there and thats what annoys me about proton.

Re: Kagi News

#354

> This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? This is awful. It's cutting out any money going to the news agencies that go out there and write news. If they didn't exist, Kagi wouldn't work.

Given the buzzword, social media, and advertising infested garbage that ~80% of news sites have turned into...it's hard to sympathize with them.

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#355
Kagi solves web search for now. LLMs are incapable of determining what’s important. They are excellent at determining what’s common. That doesn’t connect with news summarization in the way we’d ideally want it to unfortunately. I don’t care for low fidelity news.

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#356
As a Kagi Ultimate subscriber with a Family Plan and a separate subscription for Orion+, I've got to say, I don't see the point of this.

RSS works great and there are a million ways to consume them. There are also a myriad New aggregator offerings, most with some sort of LLM thrown in on top.

Did we really need this? Was there nothing better Kagi could dedicate its resources to?

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#357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is getting easier and easier to fake stuff This is why the moon landing hoax was revolutionary in the 60's. The size of this project was enormous.

As an American, confirmation that the landing was a hoax would make me even prouder than my current belief that it was real.

The moon landing was filmed. Problem is, Stanley Kubrick was such a perfectionist that he _demanded_ they film on location.

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#358
Kagi, please, please, please don't fall into the Mozilla trap and waste your time creating a whole bunch of useless side projects that never succeed, to the detriment of the one thing that we all need you to do.

You have a great search service. Please focus on that. Build that into an actual Google-beater. Provide the features your customers actually want. Spend your time, money, and energy making that the greatest search service possible.

Don't waste this opportunity. Please.

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#359

I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.

…They are also building email

Re: Kagi News

#360

Funny coincidence. This morning, my news aggregator delivered its daily results. The stack: Miniflux (https://miniflux.app/) in Docker, fetching 75 RSS feeds I've collected over the years ~200 lines in a Jupyter notebook: - Fetch entries from Miniflux API (last 24-48 hours) - Convert to CSV, feed to LLM. GPT-5 identifies trending stories across sources - Each article gets web-fetched and summarized via Gemini-2.5-fla…

Mind sharing that feeds and 200 line code? Thank you

I prefer to not. LLM prompts and feeds selection clearly expose my political preferences, interests, and location. And this is research project for more serious task. For 200 lines of code, there are 1000+ for evaluation, automatic prompt optimization. But idea is simple, so there should be no problem to implement it
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