Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Find SF parking cops

walzr.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

351–360 of 498 posts

Re: Find SF parking cops

#351

Post by ruggeri »

potato3732842 wrote: post #313
ruggeri wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe you are being downvoted because your comment violates the guidelines ("Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously... Edit out swipes."); anyway, that's why I downvoted. Your later comment that enforcement might benefit from latitude to be reasonable and accommodate nuance is not invalid, and you could have just said that rather than call the gp's aspiration "perverted." The expressed norm of guidelines is…

I'm being downvoted by being anything less then apologetically polite while expressing a viewpoint that isn't pro whatever the lowest common denominator wants. That's just how comment sections that keep "rightthink score" are.

You might be downvoted regardless, as you suggest, but the guidelines are still the social contract of HN.

What you call "less than apologetically polite" I would call "not kind" and "snarky." Did you feel kindness toward the gp when you replied?

If you think you're actually following the guidelines, then you must carry on.

Re: Find SF parking cops

#352

Post by Spivak »

itake wrote: post #343
crazygringo wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Accountability in terms of what has happened in the past , yes. But the idea that current public locations of identifiable public officers is not justifiable at all. That would be allowing individuals to be stalked in real time. That's not OK.

They are operating in public. They shouldn't have expectations of privacy. Are you against ICE agent tracking apps as well?

I mean it's only fair, I would prefer that both ordinary people and public officials were granted privacy in public spaces, but we don't so they don't.

Citizens can't hold public officials accountable when they're only accountable to other public officials.

Re: Find SF parking cops

#353

Post by crazygringo »

itake wrote: post #343
crazygringo wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Accountability in terms of what has happened in the past , yes. But the idea that current public locations of identifiable public officers is not justifiable at all. That would be allowing individuals to be stalked in real time. That's not OK.

They are operating in public. They shouldn't have expectations of privacy. Are you against ICE agent tracking apps as well?

There's a difference between being in public and being tracked.

Of course they don't have expectations of privacy in terms of people being able to e.g. take photos or videos of them. The same way people can take photos of you or me.

But broadcasting someone's real-time location to the whole world all day long, in real time, is something else entirely. That has never been considered part of being in public. That's targeted surveillance, which is very, very different.

Re: Find SF parking cops

#354

Post by renewiltord »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #344
renewiltord wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say it's "meh" that you can take your kids to swim school only on weekends. LPB is 23 vs 39 for me but I do drive. Either way I wouldn't think it "meh". But I suppose standards of living in the US are by default so far ahead of other places that these are considered the minimum to not be "meh" here.

LPB is 23 vs 39 for me but I do drive. Either way I wouldn't think it "meh". The 39 minute journey time doesn't include: - the time between now and the journey start time - delays So you would need to budget an hour each way, i.e. a total of 2.5 hours for a 30 minute swim lesson. Imagine doing that for every single thing you need to do.

Normally I'd agree with you, but I can pick my swim lesson time and I don't have to worry about headway timing because I know when to leave and the train is timed. For untimed services, certainly I'd believe it.

These are complaints of generality that don't have relevance in the specific case.

Re: Find SF parking cops

#355

Post by jkubicek »

Spivak wrote: post #292
apsurd wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gleefully? because they should express remorse and handle your car with care vs you know, putting out that fire?

Brother in law is a firefighter, gleefully is exactly the correct term here. According to him getting to bust windows to run the hose is literally their favorite thing to do. To the point where even if they don't actually need to, or it would be slower, they'll still do it. It's apparently a matter of principle.

If my bike were capable of messing up a car I 100% would ram every jerk parked in a bike lane.

So I can see where your BIL is coming from.

Re: Find SF parking cops

#356

Post by [deleted] »

nielsole wrote: post #346
xvedejas wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In college we discovered everyone's ID number was evenly divisible by 13. Presumably it's because that's the smallest number you'd need so that you could detect any one digit being incorrect, or two adjacent digits being swapped (I think?). Or that it's just very easy to implement the increment when assigning new numbers.

Isn't 11 the smallest divisor that gives those guarantees?

[deleted]

Re: Find SF parking cops

#357

Post by greyface- »

crazygringo wrote: post #353
itake wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are operating in public. They shouldn't have expectations of privacy. Are you against ICE agent tracking apps as well?

There's a difference between being in public and being tracked. Of course they don't have expectations of privacy in terms of people being able to e.g. take photos or videos of them. The same way people can take photos of you or me. But broadcasting someone's real-time location to the whole world all day long, in real time, is something else entirely. That has never been considered part of being in public. That's tar…

It should be noted that SFMTA, the alleged victim of this website, uses a network of 400+ Flock ALPR cameras to track the movement of every vehicle in the region. They're able to do this not because of some special agency authority, but because it's legal for anyone to surveil public areas.

Re: Find SF parking cops

#358

Post by hedora »

gruez wrote: post #203
voxic11 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think needing to pass on the right is a defense against driving on the sidewalk. I think it just implies that you cannot pass while they are picking up passengers.

Yeah I think the intention is to prevent someone who disembarked from the bus and are then crossing the street from getting mowed down by a car overtaking from the bus's left. It's similar to why you can't pass a school bus when it has its stop sign out.

It was clearly a typo in the book. There’s even a diagram showing that people are loading from the right, and a sentence saying you pass on that side while passengers are loading.

If they meant “don’t pass while it is stopped”, they would have said that instead of writing the equivalent of “you can pass when [false]”

Re: Find SF parking cops

#359

Post by aussieguy1234 »

Excellent work. It would be great to have this in my city. Parking cops can't be everywhere at once.

Generally I don't bother paying for public parking and just risk the fine unless I know i'm in an area with a lot of parking officers (i.e. my local CBD), I find I actually save more money this way.

Some charges are insane, like $10 per hour to park near the beach in a richy rich suburb - unless you are one of the local wealthy residents, then its free.

Perhaps this could be combined with some kind of SMS alerts, i.e. if I park at a location I can be alerted if a fine is issued?

Re: Find SF parking cops

#360

Post by [deleted] »

truncate wrote: post #264
woah wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should roads, walkways, and construction sites be blocked just to let someone have more time to avoid a ticket? I imagine the text goes out from SF's servers simultaneously with the tow truck summons. It's a fair shot for both.

I totally agree with you on that, but then why have this program at first place then? I'm just saying that given its SFMTA -- if the tow truck will take say 30 min, they will probably try to wait and issue the ticket later right before tow truck can arrive so that they can get the fines. SFMTA relies heavily on fining people for their revenue and hence incentivized to not act on good faith here. Obviously, it an accu…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN