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Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by mock-possum »

teddyh wrote: post #279
whilenot-dev wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The compose key feels mandatory for anyone who wants to type their native langauge on an US-english layout. The combination[0] is "Compose--." though: – [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key#Common_compose_com...

“Compose--.” produces an en dash , not an em dash. An em dash is produced by “Compose---”. Source: grep -e DASH /usr/share/X11/locale/*/Compose

As it should be. I wish this convention were present across more software, “-“ “- -“ and “- - -“ should be the UI norm for entering proper dashes in text input controls.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by shagie »

jaymzcampbell wrote: post #63
chinathrow wrote: post #44

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The '—' gave it away. No one types this character on purpose.

I really loved how easy MacOS made these (option+hypen for en, with shift for em), so I used to use them all the time. I'm a bit miffed by good typography now being an AI smell.

On MacOS (and I have this disabled since I'm not infrequently typing code and getting an — where I specced a - can be not fun to debug)...

Right click in the text box, and select "Substitutions". Smart dashes will replace -- with — when typed that way. It can also do smart quotes to make them curly... which is even worse for code.

(turning those on...)

It is disappointing that proper typography is a sign of AI influence… (wait, that’s option semicolon? Things you learn) though I think part of it is that humans haven’t cared about proper typography in the past.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by mock-possum »

redwall_hp wrote: post #289
throwup238 wrote: post #188

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Or, you know — iOS. That’s huge marketshare for a keyboard that automatically converts -- to —

Or Microsoft word. Many common tools in different contexts make it easy to do. As it turns out, the differentiator is the level of literacy.

And whether the user cares to ‘write properly’ to boot. I love using dashes to break up sentences - but I rarely take the time to use the proper dashes, unless I’m writing professionally. I treat capitalization the same way - I rarely capitalize the first letter of a paragraph. I treat ‘rules’ like that as typographic aesthetic design conventions - optional depending on context.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by vagrantJin »

chinathrow wrote: post #44
dansmith1919 wrote: post #10

Crazy how he doubled down by just pasting badger's answer into Chat and submitting the (hilariously obvious AI) reply: > Thanks for the quick review. You’re right — my attached PoC does not exercise libcurl and therefore does not demonstrate a cURL bug. I retract the cookie overflow claim and apologize for the noise. Please close this report as invalid. If helpful, I can follow up separately with a minimal C reproduc…

The '—' gave it away. No one types this character on purpose.

That got a giggle out of me. Not entirely relevant but AI tends to be overzealous in its use of emojis and punctuation, in a way people almost never do (too cumbersome on desktop where majority of typing work is done)

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by adastra22 »

mwigdahl wrote: post #212
sevg wrote: post #72

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Just because you don’t, doesn’t mean other people don’t. Plenty of real humans use emdash. You probably don’t realise that on some platforms it’s easy to type an emdash.

In Office apps on Windows just type two hyphens and then a word afterwards and it will autoconvert to an em-dash.

iOS keyboard as well.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by layer8 »

jtwaleson wrote: post #59
rpigab wrote: post #13

"I heard you were extremely quick at math" Me: "yes, as a matter of fact I am" Interviewer: "Whats 14x27" Me: "49" Interviewer: "that's not even close" me: "yeah, but it was fast"

There should be a language that uses "Almost-In-Time" compilation. If it runs out of time, it just gives a random answer.

"Progressive compilation" would be more fun: The compiler has a candidate output ready at all times, starting from a random program that progressively gets refined into what the source code says. Like progressive JPEG.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by mock-possum »

jmuguy wrote: post #332

This is essentially what teachers are dealing with every day, across the majority of their students, for every subject where its even remotely possible to use AI.

Why not deal with it the same way teachers have always felt with students breaking the rules?

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by andrewflnr »

duxup wrote: post #224
alexisread wrote: post #209

> The reporter was banned and now it looks like he has removed his account. I'm wondering (sadly) if this is a kind of defense-prodding phishing similar to the XZ utils hack, curl is a pretty fundamental utility. Similar to 419 scams, it tests the gullibility, response time/workload of the team, etc. We have an AI DDoS problem here, which may need a completely new pathway for PRs or something. Maybe Nostr based so PR…

I see it on forums now too. On Reddit, midsized subs that get a mild amount of traffic get these brand new accounts that post what reads like an amalgam of past posts. Often in help forums where people ask questions. They have that uncanny thing where yes it's on topic, but also not how a human would likely ask exactly AND they always let slip in just a hint of human drama that really draws in other users... They alm…

> they always let slip in just a hint of human drama

I haven't seen this so it's hard to visualize, but that seems potentially kind of tricky to do via AI. Is it actually tricky, are they donw in a way where AI could conceivably do it on its own, or are those hints easy to drop in without disturbing the bulk of the slop?

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by noosphr »

delecti wrote: post #247
noosphr wrote: post #154

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That's because utf-8 was such an absolute mess in JS that adding an emoji in your code was a flex that it worked. Sane languages have much less of this problem but the damage was done by the cargo cultists. Much like how curly braces in C are placed because back in the day you needed you punch card deck to be editable, but we got stuck with it even after we stared using screens.

> Much like how curly braces in C are placed because back in the day you needed you punch card deck to be editable, but we got stuck with it even after we stared using screens. Can you expand on this? What do curly braces have anything to do with punch card decks being editable? What do screens?

Each punch card was it's own line of text.

By putting the final curly brace on it's own card, and hence line, it meant you could add lines to blocks without having to change the old last line.

E.g. the following code meant you only had to type a new card and insert it.

     for(i=0;i
But for following had to edit and replace an old card as well.

     for(i=0;i
This saved a bit of typing and made errors less likely.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by xigoi »

chillfox wrote: post #283
navane wrote: post #162

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I was looking through my work email (my personal email is already too far gone) and realized 90pct of the messages were computer generated. Maybe not AI, but still all automatic process fired messages. I was looking for emails that were deliberately drafted by a human, not even sent only to me. Just messages that a human intentionaly made in the moment. Can't filter them out.

Pretty sure it's above 99% for me. Email is just a waste of time and a way to get phished these days.

Depends on what you use it for. Out of the last 20 e-mails in my academic inbox, 17 are human-written and the remaining 3 were generated as a result of a human action.
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