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Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Do all the jurisdictions use the same software? It would surprise me if we are at that level of centralization, plus no discrepancies appeared between audited paper ballots and the software counts?

Why "all jurisdictions"? That's a strawman. You only need to target a few districts in swing states to secure a victory.

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Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Oh great, some of our vendors work in USA on H1bs and when they need to send someone on-site to us (in Canada), they send the Canadian. I guess we'll be seeing someone new and unfamiliar... (edit: the vendor workers might be in USA on TN status and might be okay for now, I haven't asked)

Yea that's an interesting dimension too. If this holds as is, then business travel for H1B holders is dead.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/rest... : > … the effective date of this proclamation, which shall be 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on September 21, 2025. That doesn’t leave much time. I would have expected that current visa holders wouldn’t fall under this rule. Shouldn’t it be a legal standard not to apply new rules retroactively?

This is a “better safe than sorry” measure by these companies. I think it’s not 100% clear on existing H1Bs.

No one is going take a chance on that if they don't have to. I'm expecting chaos at the ports of entry tomorrow unless there is some clarification / guidance provided today by the white house.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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You're confusing facts with the opinions of others. Read the EO. There's literally nothing in the EO stating that pre-existing visa holders are subject to the new rules. Someone else is interpreting the EO , and you're assuming that their opinion is the correct interpretation.

> or stating that pre-existing visa holders are subject to the new rules How are you interpreting "on entry"?

In the plain text manner. To me the more relevant portion is this:

> ...except for those aliens whose petitions are accompanied or supplemented by a payment of $100,000

Again, just doing a plain text reading, this seems to be intended to apply to new applicants, but they didn't explicitly spell it out. It's the sort of thing that would be debated endlessly in the rounds of legal review that accompany a...more traditional...change to law, but when done quickly via EO tends to get overlooked.

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Incredibly skilled? More like incredibly low paid. H1Bs are mostly used now to save money not to fill high skilled jobs. I know US citizens who have 10+ years of experience as software engineers and have been out of work for a year now. The $100k will try to take that advantage away from employers.

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What does "globalist" mean again? Please explain that to me so I can understand.

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48 hours would also have been crazy. This should be a bill introduced in Congress, discussed in committee, voted on, and enacted with a date months in the future when it goes into effect, so that people, companies and government agencies can prepare and plan ... you know like an country with laws and procedures.

That argument went out the door when the last administration chose to open the borders. We have laws against that. But they were ignored.

The last administration did something you don't like, so this round let's be cruel to people that didn't have anything to do with it?

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I am so glad I left the States. It is horrible to live in a country where on a whim of a deranged leader your whole life can be upended. No country is perfect, but the way US now behaves towards people on visas is not tolerable. (And it was similar situation during COVID)

What country isnt descending into authoritarianism these days?

Most of Europe, Central and South America, Canada, Australia, Japan, India, South Korea - the majority of the world that could not already be described as authoritarian

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Ok. How does Microsoft pay the fee? Which online portal do they go to? What bank account do they wire a check to over the weekend? What reason do they give for the payment? What USCIS code do they enter? What USCIS forms do they fill that USCIS will then snail mail (because they’re still living in the 90s) an I-797A to the employee that they will present at the border for evidence of payment. What address will USCIS…

Maybe Satya can call Donald Trump? I am sure he has his phone number. They can sort it

They can "sort" it? Nudge nudge wink wink? Amazing.
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