Kinda hard to justify a gofundme for a vc backed company with 21m in a series A round...
This is not just for their own personal benefit, it’s for the whole community. Why spend their funding on the court case
Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle
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#352It’s not even a good name, let them have it and lets pick something better.
There is so much resources on the web tied t javascript. Moving onto new name takes massive amounts of effort and will just make people having to keep track of two names when searching the web
Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle
#353It’s not even a good name, let them have it and lets pick something better.
There is so much resources on the web tied t javascript. Moving onto new name takes massive amounts of effort and will just make people having to keep track of two names when searching the web
Maybe that’s a good thing.
PHP needs to shed its image as a crufty language because modern PHP is written differently, I’m sure “the old way” of JS has many similar warts.
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#354Maybe this is the chance to finally get rid of “Java” from JavaScript. My vote goes to WebScript.
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#355I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…
Yeah I feel like Deno seems still ok for a VC backed company. They are bring values to the JS dev community, and all their code is open sourced. Are there any down side to using deno instead of node now days?
If deno is supported, I prefer it to node. But unfortunately node support is still the “standard” for most platforms I’d say.
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#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a bit of a humorous comment considering the current NPM drama.
That drama could happen in any ecosystem where developers shoot from the hip adding dependencies without second thought, the same that thought curl | sudo sh is a good idea to start with.
Ryan actually had the foresight to add permission sandboxing to deno from the start though
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#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
That drama could happen in any ecosystem where developers shoot from the hip adding dependencies without second thought, the same that thought curl | sudo sh is a good idea to start with.
Ryan actually had the foresight to add permission sandboxing to deno from the start though
Sandboxing doesn't help against malicious code that changes expected behaviours or corrupt data.
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#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. Anyone that stupid in 2025 is hopeless.
Intelligence has nothing to do with it. You can’t deduce JavaScript and Java aren’t related, you have to be told/read that.
It takes 30 seconds to learn it for life
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#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I feel like Deno seems still ok for a VC backed company. They are bring values to the JS dev community, and all their code is open sourced. Are there any down side to using deno instead of node now days?
If deno is supported, I prefer it to node. But unfortunately node support is still the “standard” for most platforms I’d say.
When you say most platforms, what do you mean?
I’m just curious since I’ve been doing deno for a few years now and haven’t missed node beyond cloning other programs.
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdotally I don't know anyone who cares in the slightest bit about that. It's a name that has been used for a long time, and there have been lots of weird, strange name out there for software, but people just use it and move on.
No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. We're all in on TypeScript now and I don't think they're teaching Java much in university or boot camps anymore so it doesn't matter much anyway. But when every other intern came in thinking programming WAS Java.... Not great. Having to never utter "JavaScript" again wasn't the primary motivation to move to T…
What are they teaching then? I mean, if you're doing a backend - and I don't mean tiny wrapper that wraps user input into queries, I mean the database engine itself - it's Java/Scala or C++ (hopefully not C)? Maybe Go? What else do they choose to teach for heavy industrial backend use?