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Post by rsynnott »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #343
rsynnott wrote: post #335

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I mean, I think it is notable that a massive tech company is blowing tens to hundreds of billions on this complete nonsense.

A topic that's notable but has little to discuss can get a lot of upvotes. A lot of the best stuff on this site has exactly that: lots of upvotes, little commentary, because the thing itself is notable. That's definitely not what happens on Meta threads. They usually get lots of votes then lets of repetitive spam-like comments about how ethically bankrupt Zuck or Meta or social media or algorithms or whatever are. A…

Oh, no, is someone being mean to the big company? :(

This is absolutely notable, and everyone should be concerned about it. Not so much the potential fakery, but the extreme deficiency of the actual product, which has had the GDP of a small country squandered on it. Like, there is a problem here, and it will have real-world fallout once the wheels fall off.

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throwawayoldie wrote: post #347
ants_everywhere wrote: post #334

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I love this

I don't love your silly theory. It sounds like you're in denial, trying to cope with the fact that not everyone thinks LLMs are the greatest thing since flush toilets.

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Post by Ancapistani »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #187
trevithick wrote: post #101

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Also a tangent, but Microsoft was the OG for corporate cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ

Oh my god. How strong does a company's reality distortion field have to be for people to think your friends are going to want to come over to play with a new version of Windows? I mean, why not "Let's all have wine and cheese and do root canals on each other!"?

It was a different time.

I honestly was excited about Windows 95. Win98 was underwhelming, and WinME was a joke that I never bothered to install on my own machines. Win2K brought back some of the excitement, but not much.

Then Vista came out, and it was a total flop at first. Win7 fixed most of those mistakes, but the damage was done. Vista basically killed any chance Microsoft had at building excitement for an OS.

FWIW, I think the last macOS version that I was really looking forward to was High Sierra.

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Post by anonymars »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #348
anonymars wrote: post #186

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Obligatory -- "You don't even know what a write-off is. Do you?" https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ

Something I like about that scene is Seinfeld (the actor) clearly struggles not to smile at Kramer's delivery of the punch line despite that he (the character) was supposed to be irate with Kramer.

Heh. Well, Kramer himself...was often less amused...

Thread/video: https://old.reddit.com/r/television/comments/7lvvg5/michael_...

Probably that's why it feels like half the actual episode takes were like that, because they couldn't keep from breaking!

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Post by monkeyelite »

nickserv wrote: post #292
muskyFelon wrote: post #288

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I wouldn't say he's one of the best CEOs. He's been "successful" by - selling an unhealthy addictive product - burying research on its mental health impact on children - engaging in anticompetitive behavior Oh yeah, add stealing the original idea for facebook from the Winklevoss twins. I'll take being a loser if that's what it takes.

It's not about the harm you do, it's about the billions you have. But you seem to have a moral compass, you wouldn't understand ;-)

What courage and integrity is being demonstrated here?

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Post by pamelafox »

rkagerer wrote: post #297
pamelafox wrote: post #259

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I was on the Wave team! Our servers didn't have enough capacity, we launched too soon. I was managing the developer-facing server for API testing, and I had to slowly let developers in to avoid overwhelming it.

Neat, thanks for sharing this tidbit of history. Hey, what did the team think of the decision to build it on GWT at the time? (From the outside, seemed like an enabling approach but a bit like building an engine and airframe all at once).

Hm, I didn't work on the frontend but I don't particularly remember griping..GWT had been around for ~5 years at that point, so it wasn't super new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit

I always personally found it a bit odd, as I preferred straight JS myself, but large companies have to pick some sort of framework for websites, and Google already used Java a fair bit.

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Post by pamelafox »

floren wrote: post #336
pamelafox wrote: post #259

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I was on the Wave team! Our servers didn't have enough capacity, we launched too soon. I was managing the developer-facing server for API testing, and I had to slowly let developers in to avoid overwhelming it.

Wave was extremely cool and I wish it had stuck around. Hope it was as fun for you to work on as it was for us to use.

It was fun! Now we still see Wave-iness in other products: Google Docs uses the Operational Transforms (OT) algorithm for collab editing (or at least it did, last I knew), and non-Google products like Notion, Quip, Slack, Loop from Microsoft, all have some overlap.

We struggled with having too many audiences for Wave - were we targeting consumer or enterprise? email or docs replacement? Too much at once.

The APIs were so dang fun though.

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

com2kid wrote: post #222
al_borland wrote: post #139

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> Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe. Even this feels like overkill, when a person can just glance down at a piece of paper. I don’t know about others, but I like to double check what I’m doing. Simply having a reference I can look at would be infinitely better than something taking to me, which would need to repeat itself.

Paper get lost, it gets wet, it gets blown around it not weighed down, and when weighed down it then quickly gets covered with things. Prepping raw ingredients, once has to be careful not to contaminate paper, or at least the thing weighing the paper down that may be covering the next step. I cook a lot of food, and having hands free access to steps is a killer feature. I don't even need the AI, just the ability to p…

I just bought paper made from stone that doesn't get wet, so there's one problem solved..!

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Post by bhrlady »

pnt12 wrote: post #281
marcus_holmes wrote: post #148

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Google are well-known, like Meta, for making products that never achieve any kind of traction, and are cancelled soon after launch. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never managed to get Gemini to actually do anything useful (and I'm a regular user of other AI tools). I don't know what metric it gets into the top 2 on, but I've found it almost completely useless.

I agree they aren't building great user products anymore but gemini is solid (maybe because it's more an engineering/data achievement than a ux thing? the user controls are basically a chat window). I asked for a deep research about a topic and it really helped my understanding backed with a lot of sources. Maybe it helps that their search is getting worse, so Gemini looks better in comparison. But nowadays even kagi…

In what ways does Kagi seem worse? Any specific examples?
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