PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin • Hacker News Board

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by notpushkin » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:24 AM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #254

majkinetor wrote: post #238

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It's a debit card. Not sure what you mean. Nobody buys anything with cache anymore. I keep some cache in my car for bazaar and similar stuff, but all but few stores accept cards everywhere in EU I go. The convenience of having all your cards on a phone is unparalleled.

Ooh! Somehow I thought you meant credit card. No, indeed, normal cards are normal cards. Misunderstanding is entirely on my side

Side note, but you can say you have a debit card, then pay with a credit card and usually it will go through. Or vise versa. No idea why they make the distinction, maybe the fees are different but the cashier usually can’t tell.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by notpushkin » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:28 AM UTC

majkinetor wrote: post #208

glitchc wrote: post #205

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Is it a Visa or Mastercard then?

https://www.bybit.com/en/cards You are welcome.

Wirex is quite nice, though the FX fees are also a bit steep. But at least you get $200/mo ATM withdrawals for free!

https://wirexapp.com/help/article/wirex-fees-1379

https://wirexapp.com/card, or affiliate link: https://ale.sh/r/wirex

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by nokiz » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:30 AM UTC

e40 wrote: post #337

kragen wrote: post #294

Is this a legitimate alternative domain name for PayPal, or is it a parody or phishing site? It's not paypal.com. Apparently it's legit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250319

It’s so dumb because they are training everyone to be phished by scammers.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by andylynch » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:34 AM UTC

unstatusthequo wrote: post #310

kragen wrote: post #294

Is this a legitimate alternative domain name for PayPal, or is it a parody or phishing site? It's not paypal.com. Apparently it's legit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250319

Nice of them to cause confusion to make phoning easier. No, corp.paypal.com/news or PayPal.com/corp/newsroom etc weren’t a good idea. I’d love to hear how decisions like this get made.

This is common for corporate investor relations sites.

They serve entirely different audiences and are usually separately managed for the product sites, it’s also common for the latter to be blocked by the companies which are the target audience for the former.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by papyrus9244 » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:44 AM UTC

e40 wrote: post #337

kragen wrote: post #294

Is this a legitimate alternative domain name for PayPal, or is it a parody or phishing site? It's not paypal.com. Apparently it's legit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250319

It’s so dumb because they are training everyone to be phished by scammers.

They do the same with emails. I've got emails from them with links to paypal-communication.com. It's stupid.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by notpushkin » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:45 AM UTC

asddubs wrote: post #350

notpushkin wrote: post #346

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Which would not be easy to get, considering PayPal is not running a public suffix.

you can request entries on it, the list is not just for TLDs

Yes, but the list is for public suffixes, i.e. domains under which users can get their own subdomains.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by cosmosgenius » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:46 AM UTC

r_singh wrote: post #329

kragen wrote: post #294

Is this a legitimate alternative domain name for PayPal, or is it a parody or phishing site? It's not paypal.com. Apparently it's legit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250319

I’ve always felt that we need a tool to be able to answer such a question. My bank also uses a different hyphenated domain name on emails… another use case could be to check for legit social media profiles cause fakes are popular too and may not be discernible for regular grass touching not-so-online in 2025 individual.

EV Certs used to do exactly that for me, that is until browser stopped make the visuals of it special. Don't think it would be even viable today given the short expiry (which is a good thing) of TLS certs necessary for browser

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation_Certificat...

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by shim__ » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 11:57 AM UTC

cosmosgenius wrote: post #357

r_singh wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve always felt that we need a tool to be able to answer such a question. My bank also uses a different hyphenated domain name on emails… another use case could be to check for legit social media profiles cause fakes are popular too and may not be discernible for regular grass touching not-so-online in 2025 individual.

EV Certs used to do exactly that for me, that is until browser stopped make the visuals of it special. Don't think it would be even viable today given the short expiry (which is a good thing) of TLS certs necessary for browser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation_Certificat...

Shouldn't be an issue to deliver two certificates an short lived one for TLS, an long lived one for the identity

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by tootie » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 12:01 PM UTC

Geee wrote: post #283

tootie wrote: post #40

When Bitcoin first hit public consciousness the knock from economists was that it had a built-in deflationary spiral and that seems to be true. The price keeps going up and up with a few noted bumps. Rising value is great for speculators but it's a death knell for an actual spending currency. You'd be nuts to spend it if you expect it to appreciate. That's why central banks aim for low but positive inflation.

This is a fallacy. It's rational to buy stuff when it's cheap and sell stuff when it's expensive. Not the other way around. In other words, if the money gets suddenly more valuable, people would go on a shopping spree, which would cause inflation and the value would return back to normal. They wouldn't wait for it to be even more valuable. The situation would be different if there was a guarantee of deflation, but th…

You're trying to rewrite decades of economic theory in a single comment. You can just Google "deflation great depression" and "elasticity of demand". Think about the opposite side of the coin. You have car that is ok but want a better one. The better one costs $35k. In a few months, it will be $30k and a few more $25k. When will you buy it? Deflation is kryptonite to consumer spending.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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Post by jeroenhd » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 12:01 PM UTC

cosmosgenius wrote: post #357

r_singh wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve always felt that we need a tool to be able to answer such a question. My bank also uses a different hyphenated domain name on emails… another use case could be to check for legit social media profiles cause fakes are popular too and may not be discernible for regular grass touching not-so-online in 2025 individual.

EV Certs used to do exactly that for me, that is until browser stopped make the visuals of it special. Don't think it would be even viable today given the short expiry (which is a good thing) of TLS certs necessary for browser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation_Certificat...

You can still do all the checks you need, they're right there in the connection properties. This website is OV-certified (not EV) to PayPal, Inc. in San Jose by DigiCert Inc.

You do need to know what US state PayPal is registered in for them to work, of course, as proven by https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/12/nope-... during the time EV certificates were still considered special.

I don't see why EV wouldn't be viable. ACME can work with any certificate. A certificate authority can just sign new certificates every week at the request of an authenticated ACME client. The biggest issue with this workflow is the CA's billing flow optimised for the "pay once, hand over a file once" workflow.