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Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by leptons »

dang wrote: post #345
leptons wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are forgetting they have a brain that can figure things out, don't you think it's worth reminding them that they can figure things out? I weep for the future where people can't do things because ChatGPT is down. My comment was simply trying to remind someone that they have an amazing brain they can use to figure things out. Sorry if that offends you.

Not offending me - I'm just letting you know that you're breaking the rules and if you keep doing that we will ban you. Telling someone that by following your instructions they can become "more useful than a tin can" and "might actually learn something", and that they haven't given "figuring it out themselves a try", is for sure over the line into personal attack. Moreover, if we take all those swipes out of your GP…

You are seeing "swipes" where there simply are none. You certainly are reading more into my original comment than there was.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by dang »

leptons wrote: post #351
dang wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not offending me - I'm just letting you know that you're breaking the rules and if you keep doing that we will ban you. Telling someone that by following your instructions they can become "more useful than a tin can" and "might actually learn something", and that they haven't given "figuring it out themselves a try", is for sure over the line into personal attack. Moreover, if we take all those swipes out of your GP…

You are seeing "swipes" where there simply are none. You certainly are reading more into my original comment than there was.

Of course interpretations can differ about any language, but this was not anywhere near a borderline call, in terms of the standards we apply here. If you prefer a different word than 'swipe' I'm happy to do that, but either way we need you not to post any more comments of that sort.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by atonse »

mkw2000 wrote: post #341
atonse wrote: post #338

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If my tone came off as confrontational, that was not my intent. But I do intend to say this: It seems to me that _you_ are ascribing malice to my comment. I was offering a (admittedly very strong) counterpoint to OP, which was that I do find a ton of value with claude code. It really has been a game changer to our productivity. Although, based on your response, I did go back to read their original post to see if I mi…

If you have concerns about using the China based API their models are open source and can be ran locally

I wondered about that but at least ChatGPT wasn’t able to find anything definitive.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by ewoodrich »

allisdust wrote: post #286
ewoodrich wrote: post #278

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It looks like the $3 plan is only a promo price for the 1st month and it's actually $6/mo, or am I missing something? https://z.ai/payment?productIds=product-6caada

Yes it is. But totally worth it. Just got it and its quite good and quite fast. Clearly they are subsidizing even at $6. It feels like using sonnet speed wise but with opus quality (i mean pre August Opus/sonnet -> no clue what Anthropic did after that. It's just crap now).

Cool just double checking I wasn't missing a perma promo deal or something. Signed up for a month, no-brainer at that price to try it out.

I use Roo Code a lot and always looking for "hacks" to minimize my pay-per-request Gemini 2.5 Pro usage on OpenRouter so this is awesome (current method is using unlimited GPT 5 mini via Github Copilot for most uncomplicated stuff, then Kimi K2 via OR). I also have some customized Claude Code aliases/scripts I use routinely on my dev VMs and will figure out a good way to easily swap between Claude and GLM backends to compare.

Thanks for the rec! It's kinda buried on the z.ai website for some reason, I probably wouldn't have discovered it's a thing without your pointer.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by ranguna »

atonse wrote: post #338
ranguna wrote: post #311

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That's not what the op asked. They didn't ask whether claude is useful in general, they asked whether it was good compared to other LLMs. On of the tricks to a healthy discussions is to actually read/listen to what the other side is trying to say. Without that, you're just talking to yourself.

If my tone came off as confrontational, that was not my intent. But I do intend to say this: It seems to me that _you_ are ascribing malice to my comment. I was offering a (admittedly very strong) counterpoint to OP, which was that I do find a ton of value with claude code. It really has been a game changer to our productivity. Although, based on your response, I did go back to read their original post to see if I mi…

Indeed there was some malice in my comment, because I was micro triggered by yours. I did my best to minimise it tho. In this case, it didn't feel wrong to include it, but I'll try to control myself better next time. As for what caused my micro trigger: it was not because I thought you intentionally omitted answering to the OP's question, but because I actually though you jumped into giving you own opinion after unconsciously not reading the whole question. This leads to very poor discussions sometimes, even if not intentional.

As for what you missed was a nuance (a subtle distinction or variation) or whether it was the main point of the OP's question, I'll leave that up for debate. Imo it was not a nuance at all.

And FYI, this can probably also be interpreted as having malice, which is not the case.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by AlecSchueler »

reissbaker wrote: post #350
AlecSchueler wrote: post #224

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How do you store/view the data I send you?

For API prompts or completions, we don't store after we return the completion to your prompt (our privacy policy allows us to store for a maximum of 14 days, just to cover accidental log statement deploys). For the web UI we store them in Postgres, since the web UI lets you view your message history and we wouldn't be able to serve that to you without storing it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/loca...

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by reissbaker »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #356
reissbaker wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For API prompts or completions, we don't store after we return the completion to your prompt (our privacy policy allows us to store for a maximum of 14 days, just to cover accidental log statement deploys). For the web UI we store them in Postgres, since the web UI lets you view your message history and we wouldn't be able to serve that to you without storing it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/loca...

Yeah, localStorage-only doesn't do things like sync across devices or persist if you lose your phone. But since we expose an OpenAI-compatible endpoint, if you don't care about those things there are plenty of LLM clients that will keep your data 100% on-device that you can use instead of the web UI.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by all_usernames »

The security concerns here are really significant. In the section[1] on security, they write "we recommender you monitor Claude while using this feature." This borders on irresponsible IMO. Monitor what exactly? How should we monitor? What logs and metrics are exposed for security monitoring? How would a user recognize suspicious patterns...?

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by holbrad »

geeunits wrote: post #331
simonw wrote: post #330

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If you know something is covered by the documentation it's useful to provide a link, especially if that documentation is difficult to find. (I couldn't find that documentation when I went looking just now.)

Step 1: https://docs.anthropic.com Step 2: Type 'Allowed Tools' Step 3: Click: https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/claude-code/sdk/sdk-headl... Step 4: Read Step 5: Example --allowedTools "Read,Grep,WebSearch" Step 6: Profit?

So you've completely misunderstood what the discussion is about...

Maybe rtft ? Read the fucking thread.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by insane_dreamer »

wolfgangbabad wrote: post #132

My experience is similar. At first Claude was super smart and get even very complicated things right. Now even super simple tasks are almost impossible to finish right, even if I really chop things into small steps. Also it's much slower even on Pro account than a few weeks ago.

On Max and also find it slower recently.

Also yesterday tried to use it to debug some AWS issue and it tried to send me down so many wrong paths, and suggested changes that were either plain wrong or had unintended consequences, that if I didn't actually know my stuff and had followed blindly, the results would have been pretty bad or at least a huge time waster. When I called it out it would quickly reverse course ("You're right of course!") and it did provide some helpful snippets but I was unimpressed.

What I find it excellent at is for throw-away scripts to do small jobs or automate little things--stuff I could do but would take me a lot longer (especially in bash).

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