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Post by joquarky »

creatonez wrote: post #13
GuB-42 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that I think of it, when a professional YouTuber shows their browser, more often than not, there is no ad-blocking. But as professional YouTubers, there is no way they are not aware of ad-blocking. I wonder if they actually watch the ads on purpose, even in private or if they turn their adblocker off just for the video, as not to give ideas to their viewers and potentially losing ad revenue.

A while back Linus Tech Tips said ad blockers are a form of unethical piracy. His audience accused him of spreading self-serving bullshit. Oddly, his position changed a few years later and he started promoting adblocking. The chance that he was using one the whole damn time? 100%

Nearly every human being has a hintergedanken. I think this one is pretty benign.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by joquarky »

DocTomoe wrote: post #106
dheera wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "law" only applies if you live in the EU anyway.

See, this is where you are wrong. The law applies if you target people living in the EU (such as using one of the languages spoken within the EU. English applies thanks to Malta and Ireland. So does not explicitly removing tracking from EU IPs). Whether it is technically enforceable in your particular case may be the question. But historically, it has been enforced outside the EU. As you live in the Bay Area - the CC…

I hate the GDPR popups more than the ads because they make no fucking sense.

Why don't we have a browser flag that sends a request header telling the site our preference automatically so we can avoid these popups?

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by [deleted] »

account42 wrote: post #311
reactordev wrote: post #18

Instead of document.cookie consider document.localStorage since there’s verbiage around showing a notice on your site if you use cookies, etc, for tracking purposes. At least with local storage, you aren’t using cookies :P

How does this nonsense still get repeated in 2025?

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Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by rstuart4133 »

Freak_NL wrote: post #191
ksynwa wrote: post #36

I am extremely insulated from ads online and have been for about a decade. Once in a while I have to browse on a device that does not have an ad blocker or most of the times does not even let you install one. Seeing a website that is SEoptimised and heavily ad supported feels like walking into a crack den. That this is the normal experience for the vast majority of users is sad.

Whenever I open Google's Play Store on Android I get this feeling of walking into some dystopic shopping mall. I hardly ever come there (F-Droid covers all utilities for me, so Google's own app store is really only for official apps from banks, public transport, etc.), so its user hostile design always hits me like a wall of visual noise and clutter. At these moments that feeling that for most people getting bombarde…

I get the same feeling, but from my new Google TV.

I chose it because I liked the previous iterations of Google TV. It integrated with everything else, had a nice app ecosystem, and you could put the stuff you watched within a couple of remote key presses. In this new version you are forced to click over icon after icon of paid content before are allowed to see the icons you are allowed to arrange.

Replacing the TV is out, unfortunately. Finding a different UI is on my to-do list. Google TV used to a checkbox feature for me. They've turned it into "check if a device has it, and run away screaming if it does" feature.

Chrome on Android was their first move in that direction, with it's inability to host ad blockers. It must have been a wild success for them because now many Google products have the same "ads shoved down your throat" feel to them, and yes the Play store is another stand out example.

I assume once the Chinese TV manufacturers figure out Google TV is an anti-feature, they will come up with their own replacement. That day can't come fast enough. That's an odd, because I never thought I'd be cheering Chinese software on, given their repeated attacks on the infrastructure of my country. And the the bastards are still doing it. But Trump has lowered the bar so dramatically on so many things. It's a strange new world.

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Post by estimator7292 »

Freak_NL wrote: post #191
ksynwa wrote: post #36

I am extremely insulated from ads online and have been for about a decade. Once in a while I have to browse on a device that does not have an ad blocker or most of the times does not even let you install one. Seeing a website that is SEoptimised and heavily ad supported feels like walking into a crack den. That this is the normal experience for the vast majority of users is sad.

Whenever I open Google's Play Store on Android I get this feeling of walking into some dystopic shopping mall. I hardly ever come there (F-Droid covers all utilities for me, so Google's own app store is really only for official apps from banks, public transport, etc.), so its user hostile design always hits me like a wall of visual noise and clutter. At these moments that feeling that for most people getting bombarde…

I love that google removed the search bar from the front page. If you tap where it should be, you get a popup informing you that search has moved to the bottom. So you tap that and it takes you to a new screen with the search bar at the top.

I have never seen such absolute design and engineering genius.

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Post by caminante »

sciencejerk wrote: post #119
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why DNS ad blockers (Ad Guard, Pi-Hole, other) aren't frequently used across corporates. Especially given the regular-ish training on cybersecurity and related.

Don't ad blockers breach Terms of Service? I assume this is one reason that corps don't roll out adblockers

Only on a specific handful of sites.

I'm skeptical that inside counsel would really have an issue with adblock or a moderate approach -- whitelist a subset of a subset of sites like YouTube that they might see risk.

The benefits are tremendous.

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Post by 8organicbits »

dspillett wrote: post #147

> Unfortunately, I have no way to detect DNS based blocking short of loading an actual ad. Before that point I'd already spotted that limitation, but there might be an easy solution: get a domain added to a common block list used by DNS based blockers. If you get the right content from a resource on a host with that name (or the other test passes, so we test for both forms of blocker) show the message. Of course ther…

I think getting a domain is well worth the effort. If you set up the domain and write a small blog post I'm sure HN will be willing to help add the domain to every blocklist imaginable. If you do, I also think it's worth adding a donate button.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by CHB0403085482 »

Vinnl wrote: post #328
Theodores wrote: post #222

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Get a bicycle and learn the car free routes into town and to your work. Nobody puts up adverts on cycle paths. It isn't against the law, it just makes no commercial sense to do so. By making the bicycle however you get about, you cut down on seeing ads.

Incidentally almost all my trips are already by bicycle, with on foot and with public transport numbers 2 and 3. Unfortunately, since almost everybody uses these modes of transportation here, there actually are ads everywhere still. (Besides the idea of me having to adjust my route to -for now- not see ads being somewhat offensive to me too.)

Do you live here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-TuGAHR78w

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Post by loeg »

immibis wrote: post #333
loeg wrote: post #112

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Not in the US. There's no insider trading angle at all, and it's not fraudulent market manipulation to attempt to persuade consumers to cease supporting a business you're shorting as long as you're not lying about it.

IIRC insider trading is any trading based on any non-public information. Everyone knows you're running ads because they can see the ads, but not everyone knows how long you're going to run them for, or how much you're paying for them, and that would be enough. Also if you do it before you start the ad campaign, that's non-public knowledge, similar to a pump-and-dump.

Wrong. Insider trading is about breaching your duty of confidentiality to some other party who owns the information (your employer, some other business you have an NDA with, etc). The owner of the non-public information is fully allowed to trade on it.

Pump and dumps are fraud because you lie about the target stock in order to achieve the pump. The lying is a crucial element to make it fraudulent.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by dheera »

joquarky wrote: post #352
DocTomoe wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See, this is where you are wrong. The law applies if you target people living in the EU (such as using one of the languages spoken within the EU. English applies thanks to Malta and Ireland. So does not explicitly removing tracking from EU IPs). Whether it is technically enforceable in your particular case may be the question. But historically, it has been enforced outside the EU. As you live in the Bay Area - the CC…

I hate the GDPR popups more than the ads because they make no fucking sense. Why don't we have a browser flag that sends a request header telling the site our preference automatically so we can avoid these popups?

What's even worse is that I have my browser set to block cookies on ALL sites by default and only enable them for a handful of sites that I login to.

This causes all the stupid GDPR popup sites to not "remember" my preferences because they ironically need to use a cookie to store the preference of declining cookies, so they appear again each time because my browser doesn't store that decline cookie between sessions.

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