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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by marcosdumay »

MangoToupe wrote: post #6
netsharc wrote: post #3

So where's the donkey and where's the cart. It reads like: citizens have been protesting the government using social media, government desperate to curb dissent bans social media, dissent is now on the streets.. Or maybe it's as straightforward as the media has been reporting.

It also seems reasonable that companies have to follow local laws to operate there. Corporations superseding states seems just as dystopian as state repression of dissent. Granted, there is either confusion or misrepresentation as Mastodon is also banned. The reporting seems pretty meagre; even strictly with these events, how are so many dying from batons and rubber bullets? Sure these can kill, but fourteen people?

> It also seems reasonable that companies have to follow local laws to operate there.

Yes. That's as reasonable as the people there protesting their own government.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

factorialboy wrote: post #89
lionturtle wrote: post #10

It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

Classic color revolution — China and India will be watching intently.

Classic removal of agency from real revolutions to avoid thinking critically about the real problems a country has, and instead blame a foreign boogeyman.

A favorite tactic of authoritarian regimes and the tankies that love them.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #233
brightball wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People go out of their way to control information. Michael Shellenberger's site was blocked in Europe by the European Parliament after posting information for "The Twitter Files - France" which he's schedule to be testifying about to the House Foreign Affairs committee tomorrow. https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1963951509928079384

to be extremely clear - it was blocked in the European Parliament network, not all of Europe by the EP

Be even more clear, there isn't a single claim any of the Twitter files have made that have been substantiated.

These are pseudo journalists running cover for their billionaire benefactors.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by MangoToupe »

marcosdumay wrote: post #351
MangoToupe wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also seems reasonable that companies have to follow local laws to operate there. Corporations superseding states seems just as dystopian as state repression of dissent. Granted, there is either confusion or misrepresentation as Mastodon is also banned. The reporting seems pretty meagre; even strictly with these events, how are so many dying from batons and rubber bullets? Sure these can kill, but fourteen people?

> It also seems reasonable that companies have to follow local laws to operate there. Yes. That's as reasonable as the people there protesting their own government.

Did you read the next sentence?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by TFYS »

jandrese wrote: post #278
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's not the concentration of wealth, it is the concentration of power. Communism doesn't solve that problem. The less centralized your power is the more efficient your economy works. Pushing decisions down to the edge means the people deciding how to allocate resources are the closest to the information about what is needed where. The problem with highly centralized economies is that as an economy grows beyond a tri…

> It's not the concentration of wealth, it is the concentration of power.

Those are the same thing.

> The problem with highly centralized economies is that as an economy grows beyond a trivial size it's impossible for the centralized system to manage the flow of information from the edges. It doesn't scale.

That was true a few decades ago. Now with everyone having a smartphone in their pockets at all times and the amount of computing power we have it should be doable. Still not easy for sure, but not impossible.

> Also, honest competition is good for optimizing your resource allocation

Think about how much non-productive work has to be done just to enable competition. Instead of one organization per industry we need multiple, all with their own overhead costs. Every company has to do their branding, HR, marketing, etc. The whole advertising industry pretty much exists only because companies try to get an edge with propaganda instead of improving their product. Wasted work.

Competition also forces companies to do unethical things. Say one company starts cutting down rainforests to get an edge over the competition. Now they're cheaper than other businesses, and every business that wants to survive has to start cutting down rainforest. One country gets rid of worker rights -> businesses move there and other countries must follow suit. Same with taxes.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by nirava »

kelvinjps10 wrote: post #344

I remember people here in a previous thread saying that the people supported the ban, well it doesn't seem like it's the case

supporters of the ban in 3 camps:

- "if social media won't follow our laws, we should ban them" - "I am affiliated to this party so this is ok" - "social media bad, hence ban good"

of course the deeper issue was that the social media was banned because it helped backlash against the powerful spread. and backlash mostly well-deserved because of the objectively pro-corruption anti-press anti-people laws being proposed and passed.

In many ways, this protest and this massacre was probably step n and n+1 in the process rather than an accident:

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by brightball »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #353
whimsicalism wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be extremely clear - it was blocked in the European Parliament network, not all of Europe by the EP

Be even more clear, there isn't a single claim any of the Twitter files have made that have been substantiated. These are pseudo journalists running cover for their billionaire benefactors.

According to whom?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by [deleted] »

hopelite wrote: post #183
sentinelsignal wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has the country always been this corrupt? Has the corruption progressively risen or was it a drastic change? to openly plot is wild imo.

The open plotting happens in western countries too, my friend. I have personally been witness to it. The irony is that the same reasons that were give for not "reporting" things is also similar to why things in the west are not "reported", albeit due to far more sophisticated and complicated reasons. Must I remind you of all the examples of "whistleblowers" who were not protected, not lauded and championed, sometimes…

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