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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by freejazz »

Deegy wrote: post #320

I guess I'll take the other side of what most are arguing in this thread. Isn't it a great thing for to us to collectively allow LLM's to train on past conversations? LLM's probably won't get significantly better without this data. That said I do recognize the risk of only a handful of companies being responsible for something as important as the collective knowledge of civilization. Is the long term solution self cu…

> LLM's probably won't get significantly better without this data.

Yeah and Facebook couldn't scale without ignoring the harms it causes people. Should we just let that be? Society seems to think so but I don't think it's a good idea at all.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by ffsm8 »

iaw wrote: post #297
vdfs wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Claude assists me in my math research. > Claude then suggests these same ideas to someone else, who legitimately believes this is now their work. Won't this mean that claude assisted you with someone else work? Sure it's not from a "chat" but claude doesn't really know anything other than it's training data

> claude doesn't really know anything other than it's training data I've seen cases where Claude demonstrates novel behaviors or combines existing concepts in new ways based on my input. I don't think it's as simple as memorization anymore.

If I am standing in Finland and look out on the ocean, and the whole sky is green... Is the sky actually green?

You're equating your own perspective as objective truth, which is a very common pitfall and fallacy

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by ethagnawl »

troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

I wonder what happens if I don't accept the new T&C? I've been successfully dismissing an updated T&C prompt in a popular group messaging application for years -- I lack the time and legal acumen to process it -- without issue.

Also, for others who want to opt-out, the toggle is in the T&C modal itself.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by imiric »

JCM9 wrote: post #67

Not a surprise. All the major players have reached the limits of training on existing data—they’re already training on essentially the whole internet plus a bunch of content they allegedly stole (hence various lawsuits). There haven’t been any major breakthroughs in model architecture from the major players recently and thus they’re now in a battle for more data to train on. They need data, and they want YOUR data, n…

Yeah, this is hardly surprising.

To AI companies, data is even more of a gold mine than to adtech companies. It is existentially important.

The truly evil behavior will emerge at the intersection of these two industries. I'm sure Google and Facebook are already using data from one to power the other, even if it's currently behind closed doors. I can hardly wait for the use cases these geniuses will think of once this is publicly acceptable and in widespread use by all companies.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by turnsout »

smca wrote: post #343
turnsout wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't opt out of the data retention policy.

The data retention period is 30 days if you don't choose to improve model training. https://www.anthropic.com/news/updates-to-our-consumer-terms...

Oh, I didn't catch this—that's good news

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by 12ian34 »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

not remotely worried about leaks, hacks, or sinister usage of your data?

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by [deleted] »

weregiraffe wrote: post #339
episteme wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What will you use instead? I’m finding Claude the best experience since ChatGPT 5 is so slow and not any better answers than 4.

>What will you use instead? I’m finding Claude the best experience since ChatGPT 5 is so slow and not any better answers than 4. You could try programming with your own brain

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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by frm88 »

kossTKR wrote: post #191
klabb3 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU or not, it baffled me that people don't see this glaring conflict of interest. AI companies both produce the model and rent out inference. In other words, you're expecting that the company that (a) desperately crave your data the most and (b) that also happen to collect large amounts of high quality data from you will simply not use it. It's like asking a child to keep your candy safe. I'd love to live in a societ…

This is why we need actual regulation, and not the semi fascist monopolist corporatocracy we've evolved into now. Its only utopian because it's become so incredibly bad. We shouldn't expect less, we shouldn't push guilt or responsibility onto the consumer we should push for more, unless you actively want your neighbour, you mom, and 95% of the population to be in constant trouble with absolutely everything from tech…

Bravo! This has to be the most coherent and well-formulated rant I have read in a longtime. Thank you!

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by layer8 »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #334
superposeur wrote: post #308

Everyone seems to be unsurprised by this move, but I’m genuinely shocked. What a shoot your own foot business decision. Google, evil though it be, doesn’t post the text of your gmails in its search results because who would consider using Gmail after that? This is the llm equivalent. Am I missing something?

> Am I missing something? I think you do: According to the article https://www.perplexity.ai/page/anthropic-reverses-privacy-st... "Enterprise and educational customers will continue operating under their existing privacy protections, as the policy changes specifically exclude Claude for Work and Claude for Education services. These commercial accounts remain governed by separate contractual agreements that maintain…

Well, it means that LLMs used for business use cases will be trained on input from non-business use cases of non-privacy-conscious users.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by adastra22 »

ttoinou wrote: post #336
aosaigh wrote: post #122

Does this include any code base you are running Claude Code with (where parts of code are sent as part of the context)? I'm not hugely clear on how my private codebase is exposed to Claude in the first place when using Claude Code.

I think this is about claude.ai , not Claude Code nor Claude models API (but I'm not 100% sure). So no, unless you copy paste your code into claude.ai

Claude Code is explicitly included.
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