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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by pklausler »

QuercusMax wrote: post #325
herval wrote: post #298

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Apple is certainly fumbling in recent years, and it's clearly behind in some games (Siri, AI in general, iPhones turning into a yearly snooze-fest). But of all the FAANG, I'd say it's the only one I trust, simply because they're not trying to sell my data and have a consistent stance on security.

Tim Cook giving Trump a gold-plated statue in exchange for tariff preferences seems like a very bad sign.

Why? It was a relatively cheap way to dodge the capricious whims of a madman who is fortunately easy to distract with shiny objects.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by catigula »

n8cpdx wrote: post #306
catigula wrote: post #290

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It's also amazing that they convinced developers that running a non-standard CPU instruction set through a laundered Rosetta layer was somehow battery or compute friendly lb for lb when an AMD processor (or even Intel) is plenty efficient and cool. Are any applications on your Mac touching Rosetta right now? You'd better hope not because those single percentage gains from ARM evaporate fast.

Delusional take. Rosetta is for maintaining compatibility during the transition. Efficiency is fine with Rosetta. But it doesn’t matter because the ARM transition is essentially already done. Not true, unfortunately, for Windows. Aside from superior performance and battery life (even compared to ARM windows offerings), the M series devices are generally reliable, unlike windows laptops running Intel and (less so) AMD…

What is the efficiency loss specifically? Do you even know, or are you just asserting it?

>it doesn't matter because the ARM transition is essentially already done

'Essentially' is doing a lot of heavy-lifting here, but, putting that aside, A. you're wrong, I've recently ran into Rosetta throttling and B. it's not a good reason to begin the project at all, it's only a good reason when it's already done. You're essentially ceding "Yes, I've been wrong and this has been a fool's errand for the past x years until right this moment as the project is done". It's not done and it'd a weak argument.

>Aside from superior performance and battery life (even compared to ARM windows offerings), the M series devices are generally reliable, unlike windows laptops running Intel and (less so) AMD.

Specifically what are the numbers? Because I have performance/tdp numbers and the M-series performs well but it isn't a categorical difference. In fact, that's no difference, it performs okay but AMD is at the top of the heap currently. Sad.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by xp84 »

pjmlp wrote: post #314
mvdtnz wrote: post #293

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> Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will Good grief. Sometimes it's good to get a reminder that there are still people who think this way.

On my office, only folks like myself that also do Windows development, have Thinkpads with Windows. Everyone else carries Apple devices. GNU/Linux only exists on local VMs for containers, or servers on cloud instances.

Since when does carrying Apple device(s) mean we have goodwill for Apple?

I dev on a Mac all day and own 2 macs at home. Why?

* not going to try to convince the whole family to change and I want the various family & imessage features that everyone uses to all work

* all the developers at my company use macs and I don't want to have to set up my own unique configurations for everything using WSL and stuff.

* In the US, often the Android versions of "apps" you're forced to use by random businesses (instead of the Web which usually would work fine), are pawned off on an offshore team, and no execs use Android so there's no accountability when those apps suck.

* Windows also has many recent disappointments (ads in the start menu, increasingly dumber and worse settings screens), so they're doing a bad job of winning over people like me, dampening my enthusiasm to switch.

* Linux is cool but I'm too busy to want a project as my daily driver PC.

I have nothing but scorn for Tim Cook's Apple and have zero goodwill for them. They haven't shipped an actual smart idea for any of their platforms besides maybe Shortcuts (which they bought), and even then it took them 3 years to let me run automations unattended.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by alternatex »

marcosdumay wrote: post #311
ackfoobar wrote: post #262

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> .NET is now cross platform, but only as long as it doesn't hurt VS sales, with GUI workloads, profilers, still being mostly Windows only, and partially supported on VSCode, which also has the same VS license. On HN I keep hearing that associating .NET with Windows is outdated perception. Writing JVM languages I feel that the developer experience is pretty much the same on any OS. It seems this cannot be said for .N…

Pretty much no, it can't be said for .Net. It currently supports Linux as a running target for servers. It supports both running desktop software and development very badly.

It supports Linux as a running target for console apps, which can be servers, background apps, systemd apps, etc. So everything except UI apps.

The development experience with Rider is also great on Linux. I think you need to be more specific with the complaints because I have many beefs with Microsoft's approach to many things, but I could not pick up on what you meant.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by tannhaeuser »

EGreg wrote: post #108
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

What about Wine? Is that still a thing? Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development environments and UX are based on it. Used to be Atom, I remember.

Wine, as part of Proton/SteamOS is a huge success.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by ectospheno »

reversengineer wrote: post #17

GitLab is like, really good. No need to put your codebase in the "cloud."

Every place I write code I use whatever GitHub like thing the admin installed. They all work well enough.

At home I prefer fossil. It isn’t without rough edges but for the small developer headcount stuff I do it is quite lovely.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by pferde »

pjmlp wrote: post #336
justin66 wrote: post #309

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> Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. That happened three decades ago.

There was a new wind after Satya took over, but apparently it is slowly gone now.

That was a mask the corporation put on in a bid to lure in the younger crowd who doesn't remember all the underhanded stuff Microsoft did in the past. But they haven't really changed at all.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by qnleigh »

theptip wrote: post #307
827a wrote: post #163

My deepest concern at this time isn't that AI eventually gets written down to nothing; because I don't think it will. Its that these companies are so scared of being out-competed by an AI-first competitor that they're willing to make deep sacrifices to their core businesses just to effectively virtue signal that they're AI first and unable to be out-competed. It is deeply concerning because all things point to realit…

> Google has world-class research teams that have produced unbelievable models, without any plan at all on how those make it into their products beyond forcing a chat window into Google Drive. NotebookLM is a genuinely novel AI-first product. YouTube gaining an “ask a question about this video” button, this is a perfect example of how to sprinkle AI on an existing product. Extremely slow, but the obvious incremental…

> when they finally execute on the blindingly obvious strategic play that they are naturally positioned for

What's that? It's not obvious to me, anyway.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by cnst »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #3

GitHub will now fall under Microsoft's CoreAI team, which give some indication of GitHub's purpose and direction going forward.

This is kinda pretty ridiculous.

Isn't GitHub's entire visibility and pervasiveness is entirely due to the OSS?

So, now they're basically saying to OSS, "so long, and thanks for all the fish"?

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by lurk2 »

coryrc wrote: post #285
lurk2 wrote: post #214

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden https://www.cracked.com/article_23358_the-6-ballsiest-moment... Err, don't know what you're suggesting.

> Err, don't know what you're suggesting.

You do.

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