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Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by fc417fc802 »

chucksmash wrote: post #331
lukas099 wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Who are these people paying for jobs that don't do anything, and why are they more concerned about "keeping people busy" than their own profits?

It's like saying "if you know half of your advertising dollars are wasted, why don't you just cut your ad buy in half?" I still remember the joke from my first job: Q: How many people work at this office? A: About half.

An apt analogy. Circling back to scientific research, I'm sure an investigator would be more than happy not to spend the time, effort, and grant money on a project that wasn't going to produce worthwhile results. If only we could know in advance without doing the work.

That does not, of course, mean that "most research being produced isn't really research, just people keeping busy" or whatever other nonsense an uninformed outsider feels like spewing.

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Post by fc417fc802 »

LPisGood wrote: post #296
4ndrewl wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you cite your sources please?

There have been countless academics who have discussed this topic, occasionally not behind closed doors. Regardless, it’s certainly my observation as well.

Countless academics have leveled targeted criticisms at various practices and gone on to back those up. They are targeted, actionable objections; not vague blanket dismissals.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

layer8 wrote: post #321
afarah1 wrote: post #196

Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

Maybe the larger universe is identical to the contained universe, like a fractal. That would solve the question. ;)

Would be fun if we find a function f(state, time) such that for f(singularity, 14 billion years) we get our current universe. i.e.: every singularity turns into our exact universe.

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Post by dboreham »

afarah1 wrote: post #196

Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

It's just recursion in the simulator.

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Post by downboots »

StefanBatory wrote: post #151
RS-232 wrote: post #79

Not many people these days like to hear this (I myself was one of them), but the answer to this is in Genesis. There's a reason some of the most famous mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and philosophers of all time believe(d) in God. The Hebrew name of God, YHWH, literally means "He Who Is." In other words, the Self-Existent One. The father and originator of all things that were, are, and will be, who exists out…

It would be a nice argument for deism - but to jump from that into anything more, seems way too extreme of a leap. Why Christianity then, over Hinduism? Why any human religion at all?

The Christian answer may be "God showed the 12, martyred, codified by church fathers [無]" but I haven't asked any Hindus, or anything nonhuman.

[無] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitarianism_in_the_Church_F...

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Post by decae »

anal_reactor wrote: post #318
afarah1 wrote: post #196

Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

I feel like quantum physics is gently pointing us towards the idea "everything you can imagine is real at once". As in, all possible universes and physics systems and whatnot do exist in some sense of this word, and we happen to inhabit one. Just like Earth is a totally unremarkable planet in a totally unremarkable solar system in a totally unremarkable galaxy, except we popped up here so for a long time we thought t…

Not only does the sun not rotate around us, the rest of the galaxy doesn't even care to think that we exist. An interesting evolution in thought nonetheless.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by krapp »

RS-232 wrote: post #79

Not many people these days like to hear this (I myself was one of them), but the answer to this is in Genesis. There's a reason some of the most famous mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and philosophers of all time believe(d) in God. The Hebrew name of God, YHWH, literally means "He Who Is." In other words, the Self-Existent One. The father and originator of all things that were, are, and will be, who exists out…

>There's a reason some of the most famous mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and philosophers of all time believe(d) in God.

That reason being that for much of Western history if you didn't believe in God the Church would burn your research in a big fire and probably you on top of it.

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