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Re: Android 16 is here

#352

Not available for Pixel/XL, Pixel 2/XL, Pixel 3/XL, Pixel 3a/XL, Pixel 4/XL, Pixel 4a, Pixel 4a 5G, Pixel 5, or Pixel 5a. I have Pixel 4a and I wanted to get Android 16 to get the smaller notification tile buttons back.

You haven't been getting even security updates for almost two years. The last Android version that supported 4a was Android 13, this is 16. https://endoflife.date/pixel

I have Android 14 on 4a and it was an OTA update.

Security update has a stamp of 5 November 2023 on it.

Re: Android 16 is here

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post #250

Not available for Pixel/XL, Pixel 2/XL, Pixel 3/XL, Pixel 3a/XL, Pixel 4/XL, Pixel 4a, Pixel 4a 5G, Pixel 5, or Pixel 5a. I have Pixel 4a and I wanted to get Android 16 to get the smaller notification tile buttons back.

Is the 4a still supported with security updates? What OS are you running? GrapheneOS stopped support so I scored a cheap 8a but I really dislike it. Had to boot my 4a again for some reason the other day and I realized I really missed it, it's so small and lightweight compared to the 8a.

Last update is from 5 November 2023.

Re: Android 16 is here

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> No gross UI reskin Pixel experience is literally same thing as Samsung One UI - a gross UI reskin > no having multiple copies of the same type of app (Samsung camera vs android camera, dialers, keyboards, etc Google is the one that forces the multiple copies of same app thing

Not true. Vendor blobs are used in third party phones that have different hardware. Or, in some cases, because the phone seller wants to track you or try an offer an additional "value add" with their version of the app. They don't have to do any of that.

Can you provide an example of a device that ships with official Android and Google mobile services, but doesn't include any Google apps like Chrome, Youtube or messages?

Re: Android 16 is here

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Export your contacts to rfc6350, use a mac to export your photos to a zip, put it all in git with the remote on a VPS and bail out. None of the other stuff is worth worrying about.

My gym app on my Apple Watch, the AirTag on my cat and my dog, the NotePlan app on my mac/iPhone... I am personally migrating away from relying on iCloud and successfully so, but once you buy into an ecosystem, you end up entangled on so many levels that it's nearly impossible to move away with serious friction and habit-altering compromises. It becomes a serious cognitive load.

Fitness is easily solved elsewhere

Notes apps are really also a solved problem

But I can't say there are as good alternatives to Airtag

Re: Android 16 is here

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So there are at least two of us! I'd be truly excited and willing to pay laptop-tier prices for either: 1) a bare (ala Pixel) foldable with S-pen and without large external displays to get cracked and complicate things 2) a rooted linux-computer-in-your-pocket that can be plugged into a usb-c hub and happens to have a SIM card/cell modem to work as a phone. ...but until then I just get by for years and years on whate…

For #2, I wonder if you're aware of Planet Computers: https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/devices/products/c...

It looks aspirationally like what I want, but with a poor execution. For example "Android 9" is just not acceptable when Android 16 just released.

Re: Android 16 is here

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There is only one purpose for the iPhone to have a usb c connection. Just one. The dock. Like all things apple, watch them muzzle it to keep sales of the IPAD high.

>There is only one purpose for the iPhone to have a usb c connection. Just one. Compliance with EU law?

I’d guess they meant “a usb c connection rather than only wireless charging/sync.”

Re: Android 16 is here

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Those tools/features are more ways to collect data easily. I have a Pixel 7 Pro running GrapheneOS , I am never going back to an AndroidOS, period. The level of privacy and control GOS provides is like no other, and the security update is always ahead of Google. GOS in fact has found and reported vulnerabilities which we get released to our phone faster than Google. I am too biased to say anything, I went De-Google y…

How did you deal with banking apps? That's the main thing that stops me moving to Graphene since I have a lot of accounts that either only have an app or only allow you to do certain things through the app.

I switched banks until one worked. Others I access on the web.

Re: Android 16 is here

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post #346

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My gym app on my Apple Watch, the AirTag on my cat and my dog, the NotePlan app on my mac/iPhone... I am personally migrating away from relying on iCloud and successfully so, but once you buy into an ecosystem, you end up entangled on so many levels that it's nearly impossible to move away with serious friction and habit-altering compromises. It becomes a serious cognitive load.

Fitness is easily solved elsewhere Notes apps are really also a solved problem But I can't say there are as good alternatives to Airtag

Not a „Notes” app. The NotePlan app. It’s fairly specific and not easily replaced with alternatives. I tried.

The gym app I use also is pretty specific and having all my history data there, tracking current weight/reps for all the many exercises that it would be nearly impossible to migrate to another solution.

Re: Android 16 is here

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How did you deal with banking apps? That's the main thing that stops me moving to Graphene since I have a lot of accounts that either only have an app or only allow you to do certain things through the app.

I switched banks until one worked. Others I access on the web.

Yeah, I don't know how if that would work for me. I have a lot of banking/finance related accounts which I carefully choose for best interest rates etc. Restricting what companies I can use like this would probably end up effectively costing me quite a lot of money.
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