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Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by samcat116 »

teruakohatu wrote: post #200

> Every Apple Developer Program membership includes 200GB of Apple hosting capacity for the App Store. Apple-Hosted Background Assets can be submitted separately from an app build. Is this the first time Apple has offered something substantial for the App store fees beyond the SDK/Xcode and basic app distribution? Is it a way to give developers a reason to limit distribution to only the official App Store, or will th…

> Is this the first time Apple has offered something substantial for the App store fees beyond the SDK/Xcode and basic app distribution?

They've offered 25hrs/mo of Xcode Cloud build time for the last couple years.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by reaperducer »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #335
zapzupnz wrote: post #324

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The theatrics of being *forced* to use completely optional, opt-in features has been a staple of discussions regarding Apple for years. Every year, macOS and iPadOS look superficially more and more similar, but they remain distinct in their interfaces, features, etc. But the past 15 years have been "we'll be *forced* to only use Apple-vetted software, just like the App Store!" And yeah, the Gatekeeper mechanism got l…

Not forced to use, forced to download and waste 2GB of disk space.

I presume you're talking about Apple Intelligence.

It's not forced. It's completely optional. It has to be downloaded.

And if you activate it, then change your mind, you get the disk space back when you turn it off.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by reaperducer »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #325
reaperducer wrote: post #180

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I find it offensive to have any generative AI code on my computer. Settings → Apple Intelligence and Siri → toggle Apple Intelligence off. It's not enabled by default. But in case you accidentally turned it on, turning it off gets you a bunch of disk space back as the AI stuff is removed from the OS. Some people are just looking for a reason to be offended.

I have a limited connection, and don't want to update my computer with AI garbage.

So don't. You have to tell the computer to download Apple Intelligence. It doesn't just happen on its own.

Just don't push the Yes button when it offers.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by okanat »

enceladus06 wrote: post #193
paxys wrote: post #28

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It's impossible to have "native" support for Linux containers on macOS, since the technology inherently relies on Linux kernel features. So I'm guessing this is Apple rolling out their own Linux virtualization layer (same as WSL). Probably still an improvement over the current mess, but if they just support LXC and not Docker then most devs will still need to install Docker Desktop like they do today.

WSL throughput is not enough for file intensive operations. It is much easier and straightforward to just delete windows and use Linux.

Using the Linux filesystem has almost no performance penalty under WSL2 since it is a VM. Docker Desktop automatically mounts the correct filesystem. Crossing the OS boundary for Windows files has some overhead of course but that's not the usecase WSL2 is optimized for.

With WSL2 you get the best of both worlds. A system with perfect driver and application support and a Linux-native environment. Hybrid GPUs, webcams, lap sensors etc. all work without any configuration effort. You get good battery life. You can run Autodesk or Photoshop but at the same time you can run Linux apps with almost no performance loss.

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Post by krackers »

hbn wrote: post #97
codethief wrote: post #42

> New Design with Liquid Glass Looks like software UI design – just like fashion, film, architecture and many other fields I'm sure – has now officially entered the "nothing new under the sun" / "let's recycle ideas from xx years ago" stage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_%28user_interface%29 To be clear, this is just an observation, not a judgment of that change or the quality of the design by itself. I was gett…

I love that we're getting some texture back. UI has been so boring since iOS 7. Sebastiaan de With of Halide fame did a writeup about this recently, and I think he makes some great points. https://www.lux.camera/physicality-the-new-age-of-ui/

Interesting, I never made the connection between dashboard widgets UI and early iPhone UI. It does make sense, early iPhone had a UI that was glossier and more colorful than "metallic" aqua.

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Post by jemmyw »

rnubel wrote: post #172
mmcnl wrote: post #122

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It's cool but also not as revolutionary as you make it sound. You can already install Podman, Orbstack or Colima right? Not sure which open-source framework they are using, but to me it seems like an OS-level integration of one of these tools. That's definitely a big win and will make things easier for developers, but I'm not sure if it's a gamechanger.

All those tools use a Linux VM (whether managed by Qemu or VZ) to run the actual containers, though, which comes with significant overhead. Native support for running containers -- with no need for a VM -- would be huge.

Still needs a VM. It'll be running more VMs than something like orbstack, which I believe runs just one for the docker implementation. Whether that means better or worse performance we'll find out.

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Post by thrawa8387336 »

okanat wrote: post #354
enceladus06 wrote: post #193

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WSL throughput is not enough for file intensive operations. It is much easier and straightforward to just delete windows and use Linux.

Using the Linux filesystem has almost no performance penalty under WSL2 since it is a VM. Docker Desktop automatically mounts the correct filesystem. Crossing the OS boundary for Windows files has some overhead of course but that's not the usecase WSL2 is optimized for. With WSL2 you get the best of both worlds. A system with perfect driver and application support and a Linux-native environment. Hybrid GPUs, webcams,…

FWIW I get better battery life with ubuntu.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by gnatman »

chakintosh wrote: post #46

Some 15 years ago, A friend of mine said to me "mark my words, Apple will eventually merge OSX with iOS on the iPad". And with every passing keynote since then, it seemed Apple's been inching towards that prophecy, and today, the iPad has become practically a MacBook Air with a touch screen. Unless you were a video editor, programmer who needs resources to compile or a 3D artist, I don't see how you'd need anything o…

But when you have so many customers buying and using both, seems like it'd be bad business for them to fully merge those lines.
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