A lot of European brands (Villeroy & Boch, Geberit, Duravit etc) have Japanese style toilets for a while now, albeit often with less buttons and functions. It's getting more common in Northern Europe.
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Many bathrooms have a light switch close to the toilet. Hopefully it's 3 wire so it's easy to install an outlet a couple feet below the switch.
Aren't light switches and outlets supposed to be on different circuits by code?
No, not in North America.
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I suspect the practical reason they are not retrofitted is that few if any toilets in the US have a power outlet next to it.
They're hydraulically powered, not electrically; no outlet required, the same water intake that the jet uses is used for the mechanism as well.
Luxebidet are, but the parent comment to yours is referring to Toto washlets, I think.
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...why would you need electricity for a seat with water?
https://www.totousa.com/tips/toto-washlet-electric-bidets I'm not sure electricity is required for basic operation but at least most models are designed to be plugged in.
Except for the no-power versions, electricity is required for bidet functions on Toto bidets. They work like normal industrial hydraulics. They have a small low-power electric pilot valve, which lets hydraulic pressure into the right place to move the boom in and out, and release water.
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I have lived in close to a dozen places built over the entire second half of the 20th century and into the 2010s and never had a bathroom with more than 6 feet between the toilet and an outlet.
In my downstairs bathroom, I do indeed have a power outlet within 6 feet of the toilet, but until I added a second, closer outlet, plugging in my bidet required running an extension cord along the back of the counter, behind the sink, to reach the original outlet. Not the most attractive setup, and probably not the safest either. In my old apartment, the master bedroom had the toilet in a separate room from the sink,…
Yeah my current setup requires an extension cord and it’s definitely a hassle. It doesn’t look great and it is another thing to clean.
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#356It's great for your master bathroom. I wouldn't put them in a guest bathroom because over time the wand accumulates poo - might be unsanitary after a while. I clean mine every couple of weeks.
Assuming you clean the guest bathroom after a guest leaves (or at least before a new guest arrives), you can simply add the bidet wand to your list of items to clean, no?
Be sure to clean the ceiling too if said guest was a bum gun noob.
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that doesn't make them non-muslim things. Plently of things in those countries that are not from those countries
I feel it’s weird defining them by the main religion of the country it is (maybe) mostly used. No one says the numbers used in English are Muslim, they are generally referred to as Arabic. I wouldn’t say printing is a “catholic thing”, but it definitely came from a super catholic part of the world.
I think it makes sense specifically in this case.
Mainly because Islam has jurisprudence around hygiene in a sense. Ritual purification is an actual religious principle.
Islam requires Muslims to pray 5 times a day, and for those prayers, one has to be ritually clean. That involves washing the hands, rinsing the mouth and nose, washing the face, forearms, head, ears, and then the feet. That's effectively all the major parts of the body that are generally not covered by clothes. Your "cleanliness" is invalided if you use the toilet, pass flatulence, vomit, sleep and so on.
More so, for using the toilet, there are rules. You have to find a place that is away from standing water, people's pathways, shade etc ; granted, this generally doesn't apply in today's age. You have to be quiet on the toilet, and not look at anyone. Not allowed to eat any food while defecating. Lastly and most relevant in this case, you have to use water to wash yourself using the left hand, and then afterwards, you need to do the same for washing the front if you've urinated.
The reason why the "bidet spray" thing exists, is largely because of the rules in the religion around that practice. Calling them Arabic wouldn't make any sense because Indonesia, with the largest Muslim population, has similar tools in their facilities. Again, because they're mostly Muslims.
Printing isn't a catholic thing because the religious doctrine didn't emphasis "printing" itself.
Arabic numbers aren't "islamic numbers" because the religious doctrine didn't emphasise the numbers in some way.
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#359In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…
> try as best as you can to aim it into your anus to wash as best as you can This seems like a great way to spray shit everywhere and is not at all how I learned to use those. What I do is soap one hand, aim the jet into the toilet past the anus with the other hand (jet vector orthogonal to the anus's normal vector), then go to town on it with soap and water. It's foolproof and you get very clean. How has nobody ment…
Yet here I am on the other side surprised to hear you and others saying you’re lathering your poopy butt with your hands in a restaurant bathroom
We all gotta wash our butts, but it just seems more civilized to do it in the shower as you can get everything clean, you didn’t just crap, and you’re not eating with those same hands immediately afterwards.
Toilet paper + wet wipes are 100x more sanitary than what you describe
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#360I’m surprised these never took off in Mexico. Water is cheaper than toilet paper, and you don’t have a basket of used toilet paper in the bathroom.
I kind of wonder what happens if not-drinkable water is used for cleaning your membranes.