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The student is the employer, though. They are paying the university for a service. They aren't the employee.
The student is the customer , not the employer, if you must phrase it in those terms. And I think education benefits when you define the student as a student, before anything else.
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The student is the employer, though. They are paying the university for a service. They aren't the employee.
The student is the customer , not the employer, if you must phrase it in those terms. And I think education benefits when you define the student as a student, before anything else.
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I'd go a step further.. The prof was expressing empathy for the students that made the effort to be on time. They made it. If you know you're late all the time, then make allowances. 8 hours not enough sleep, go to bed earlier. 1 hour not enough time to wake up, set your alarm to give you 2 hours. This isn't related to knowing you're sick, just knowing you're late often. It always makes me wonder when I hear "empathy…
It really shows that you know nothing about sleep-related disabilities. I know someone suffering from idiopathic hypersomnia[1]. You can't just "choose" to go to bed earlier to wake up earlier in the morning. Sometimes it might work, most of the time it doesn't. You think it's the disabled person's responsibility to never put a burden on others when others' expectations puts an unreasonable amount of burdens. And we'…
I don’t think anyone here is disagreeing that those with a disability should be protected. The distinction is that many don’t go so far as to assume someone has a disability when their behavior is maladaptive. In game theory, systems break down when they are too many people abusing the system. Giving everyone a break on all instances just in case they have a disability sets the table for creating an unstable system ripe for abuse.
You point out the specific case of sleep disorders. But the numbers of medical disorders is functionally infinite. If we apply the same rule across the board, we would be creating a world where nobody is held accountable because they might just have some obscure illness they aren’t aware of.
I think there are better approaches that don’t devolve like that. As another congener said, you can create a system where late-comers can quietly come in the back.
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The first time I drove in the US I came up to a turn with the yellow speed sign. I was going faster and I could feel my car strain to not go off the road. This is to this day the second scariest thing I've experienced in a car. After that I 100% followed the yellow signs.
> This is to this day the second scariest thing I've experienced in a car. I have to know! What was the scariest thing?
I was lucky there was no car in the lane to my right.
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Then there’s an aggressive driver who sees that and realizes it hammers home the point that the yellow speed signs (vs the white ones) are not enforceable. And an enforceable sign could never be a weird number because speedos don’t have ticks but every 5mph.
> And an enforceable sign could never be a weird number because speedos don’t have ticks but every 5mph. Disneyland famously has a 14mph speed limit for their property. They do this both to get your attention, and because the tram moves at 14mph (because 15mph requires seatbelts).
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Then there’s an aggressive driver who sees that and realizes it hammers home the point that the yellow speed signs (vs the white ones) are not enforceable. And an enforceable sign could never be a weird number because speedos don’t have ticks but every 5mph.
The first time I drove in the US I came up to a turn with the yellow speed sign. I was going faster and I could feel my car strain to not go off the road. This is to this day the second scariest thing I've experienced in a car. After that I 100% followed the yellow signs.
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Not everywhere is like wherever you are. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-dec-11-tr-insid... Non-punctual cultures can view on-time people as clueless, over-eager, and annoying.
The exact opposite can also be true, so not much is being said here. Try being late to a meeting in Germany or Japan. It is disrespectful. Are there any highly developed countries where the business culture is still "non-punctual"? I struggle to think of any. In short, if you have two businesses side-by-side, and one operates more punctually, then it will probably out-compete the other. To be clear, I'm not talking a…
FWIW I am personally a very punctual person with heritage from one of the most punctual countries. But when in Rome…
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In Finland the universities (and I believe in many other European universities have/had this as well) there was "academic quarter" which meant that if something was scheduled for 10am it would actually start at 10:15am. IIRC if they used precise time (10:00) then it would actually start at that time. I've heard it dates back to when people didn't have easy access to precise time. It would allow students to hear the h…
so did things end at 11:15am as I imagine a lot of times there was something to be done in the next hour of 11AM?
Most lectures were allocated double slots, though, for example from 10 to 12. In that case the actual official lecture time would have been either 10:15 to 11:00, followed by a quarter hour break, and another 45 minutes from 11:15 to 12:00. Alternatively -- and probably more commonly -- there was no break, and the lecture was 1.5 hours from 10:15 to 11:45.
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That's how it was for me in college in the USA. As an aside, it's a little absurd that people wouldn't go to class given how much money they're paying. Private colleges are around $39k USD per year. That's a lot of dough per class-hour.
I was lax about going to certain classes. Not always because of laziness (though, I'll admit it was occasionally a factor) but often because the format of one person, who lacked any particular talent for teaching, reading mostly from notes or scribbling incomprehensible symbology on a blackboard in a room filed with hundreds of people wasn't really a teaching format that did anything for me.
If I was in the room, I'd be relieved. I always found that meetings at large companies dragged on unless there was a forcing factor (like a doorknock) that got someone to bring it to an end.
i was at a startup where meetings were stifling. i had code to write, but i was stuck in HOURS long meetings half the week while marketing and sales types droned on and on about stuff that was meaningless unless we had a product to sell. uh, guys? we have code to write walking back from lunch with my cow-orkers one day, i realized we were passing a clock store. i went inside and bought a not-too-expensive cuckoo cloc…
In general, your management should take care of this.
Otherwise, if they are unwilling, it requires becoming slightly antagonistic once the meeting runs long. In my case, as soon as someone mentioned another meeting I just interrupted abruptly and said, "We do not need another meeting." The groans of agreement got the point across.
Otherwise, if that doesn't work, you can do something like, "Everyone but [person droning on] needs to leave the room, now." Once everyone leaves, point out that "these long meetings are killing team productivity, morale, and are completely unneeded. Stop wasting the engineering team's time. We don't need to be here."