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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by tomrod »

lucsky wrote: post #309
nperrier wrote: post #138

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Fan of Mazzy Star's music? Try playing one of their hit songs. Oh you can't because their music is not on the platform.

Yes it is. If it's not available for you then blame the fucktard lawyers who made the call that it should not be available wherever you are for some dumbfuck reason. Spotify is not responsible for this, they just comply with the aforementioned fucktard lawyers.

Their point is at a higher level than a single artist's inclusion. What you're advocating is for artists to give up their rights (whether primarily or indirectly negotiated). "Just do what the lawyers say."

I didn't think Spotify had fanboy/fangirl followings, but based on your and others' comments, I stand corrected. What do I know!

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by tomrod »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #79
hyperbovine wrote: post #44

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For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

Meh, the two ideologies are a tradeoff decision. If you own, you don't pay subscription and can use that money to buy. And in tenuous circumstances you have control. If you subscribe, you don't pay money to buy massive library. But in tenuous circumstances you don't have control. Everybody rates the risk of tenuous circumstances differently and so that affects the decision outcome.

100% agree. I'll note that the more one gets jaded with individual systems, they like to reach for easy systems that give them more control.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by tomrod »

Barrin92 wrote: post #96
tomrod wrote: post #26

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"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_ha...

I've never understood the conspiratorial use of that slogan because it's unironically correct. Ownership is economically a cost and a risk and you're generally better off if you can utilize something without owning it or distribute ownership. I'm much better off using free software than having copies of proprietary software on my shelf and the train is much cheaper than the car insurance.

It's not conspiratorial. It's an accurate and widely broadcasted business model by several companies. Why do you feel something that is present and real should be denigrated as conspiratorial?

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by 28304283409234 »

fabatka wrote: post #265
layoric wrote: post #85

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This reflects a lot of what I've been through as well. My subscriptions exploded when AU got a lot of different streaming platforms, and I think when paramount+ came out and took Star Trek off of another one I drew the line. I realised I still owned all the physical media, so time to make backups. Previous to that I moved off Gmail, that was by far the hardest, and still somewhat ongoing after 8+ years. The hardest t…

What about backups? My greatest fear is self-hosting valuable stuff (like family photos) only for my NAS to fail one day and lose potentially everything.

Once a year I sync all media from my laptop to a USB disk. Once in a while I buy a new disk. This is more than enough backup for me.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by npodbielski »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #229
sailfast wrote: post #76

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Sure, but that’s piracy. Kinda like saying Winamp is alternative to Spotify. The music is kinda the most important thing.

That's the premise of this whole thread. Nobody is going to buy albums on itunes to self host them. The ergonomics and economics just don't work out.

I try to do that. Sadly this is sometimes very hard. I often fine myself in situation when I can't buy album I like. It is nowhere to be found. Sometimes I can't even pirate it because this so niche.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by npodbielski »

chipsrafferty wrote: post #89
johntitorjr wrote: post #61

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I think the unstated assumption is that the reader has an existing music library. Where that library came from is an excercise left to the reader. I use bittorrent, which I admit is a little morally smelly, but I justify it by buying vinyl albums of any artists I listen a lot to. It'd take a lot of Spotify listens to match the money to the artist of buying a single album from the band website. Lots of vinyl comes wit…

I can't justify the time to go torrent music every time I want to try something new. I don't have a "small list" of artists, I listen to tons of artists and if I immortalized it with a torrented library, how would I ever find new music?

I do not know what you are listening to, but for my kind od music I have few webpages that I can visit for new and old releases. I can filter for example by genre and see few yt videos with to see if this is something I would like. Then you can download it or buy it. This is a lot od work but I would never discover few bands 'the spotify way'. Like i.e. Austrian Death Machine.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by npodbielski »

someonehere wrote: post #93

If you haven’t been keeping up with Plex, self-hosters like myself and others are up in arms over the client rewrite. It feels like the Sonos update for us. Broken features. Useful functionality removed. UI that’s more streaming focused than self-hosting like it used to be. If you haven’t gone down the Plex path yet, don’t right now as the community and developers sort out their roadmap. Plex seems to be open to feed…

I never really understood what is the point od running something locally and then registering on .com domain. Like if I will loose internet connection I cant listem my own music? Seemed radicoulous. But I guess it does nit require much knowledge and people keep using it.

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Post by udev4096 »

dandersch wrote: post #328
udev4096 wrote: post #204

Anyone concerned about recommendations might wanna look at musicbrainz. You can write a script for fetching the recommendations based on your current library every week

Can you elaborate? I'm not aware of musicbrainz having any recommendations/discovery features.

Sorry, I meant listenbrainz

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by udev4096 »

bane wrote: post #236
udev4096 wrote: post #210

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You have to be extremely dumb to even think of using unraid. It introduces a hard dependency on whatever you do and is nothing more than a glorious wrapper for managing docker services

What dependency is that? Unraid is mostly used for storage management, the docker and vm parts are definitely side bits to the system.

Yes, mostly storage. But why? Storage == ZFS. ZFS cli is well documented and works extremely well. Don't use unraid or truenas or any other fancy UI. I know the appeal from the beginners but it's not worth it

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by easyKL »

10729287 wrote: post #324
grepexdev wrote: post #188

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This! I recently ditched Spotify and rediscovered radio in the past few weeks. There are so many great songs I've come across from bands I enjoy that I had never heard of because, as someone else said, Spotify's algorithm is way overfit.

It's also great sometimes to discover great music from genre you usually don't like, or... just be exposed to songs you don't like. This is what helps building a musical culture. Please allow me to recommend FIP, as a human (it's a classic here but there's no such thing as recommending too much FIP) : https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip

France Inter Paris (FIP) it's awesome!

And remember you can always get the audio steam through HTTP Live Streaming (HLS), on its M3U format, or others with better quality. There are many Android apps like Transistor to enjoy the stream, and even VLC can open these, in order to avoid using a web browser.

Likewise, I prefer online radios than big tech algorithms that craft my music experience.

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