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CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

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Post by rocqua »

rob74 wrote: post #331
panny wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would be hilarious. That would be a good thumb in the eye to the current administration who complained long and loud about how Obama let ICANN leave US possession. Just imagine the campaign commercials in 2026, >The POTUS transferred our cyber defenses to the EU Ouch

Well, that's kind of the point? The current administration doesn't care about cyber defense, any less than it cares about protecting the environment, protecting consumers, having top-notch universities and research, foreign aid etc. etc. Actually, it takes pride in not caring about all of these things.

My guess is that they feel they are supplying something the whole world is benefiting from, and they believe that unfair. That ignores the fact that the US benefits immensely from this, and that they benefit domestically from providing that benefit more widely by getting a lot of free contributions from the outside. But the US foots the bill of those who do get payed, so its unfair...

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Post by tdb7893 »

wichitawch wrote: post #161

I'm surprised that it was USA's responsibility to fund this in the first place. Why weren't other countries providing funds?

The US has made at least hundreds of billions of dollars from it's tech companies and has had a dominance over global tech for a long time. The tech industry has brought a crazy amount of money and power to the US so it makes sense the US puts extra effort to support it.

The US isn't supporting it out of charity, it's good for US businesses to have someone coordinating this for everyone. Why would we want to rely on other countries to be supporting our tech sector? At least now we are subject to only the capricious whims of our own government, as little comfort as that is right now (if another country was funding it we would be relying on the whims of a foreign government, which isn't ideal when tech is the golden goose of your modern economy).

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

sofixa wrote: post #197
Aurornis wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sort of thing is happening across the federal government. There is no rhyme or reason. DOGE has been given an unrealistic target for cuts and they're desperately cutting whatever they can get their hands on. If you look at the federal budget it's nearly impossible for DOGE to hit their stated goals without touching benefits like medicare and social security (which are off limits so far) so the only option is dee…

> This sort of thing is happening across the federal government. There is no rhyme or reason. DOGE has been given an unrealistic target for cuts and they're desperately cutting whatever they can get their hands on You make it sound like poor DOGE employees are being forced to do this on this kind of schedule, which definitely isn't the impression I got. They're all a bunch of incompetent overconfident weirdos who thi…

Who knows whether it will happen, but in principle DOGE is working under some time pressure as they're scheduled to be dissolved in mid-2026.

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Post by bkor »

Ucalegon wrote: post #319
jonnybgood wrote: post #306

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MITRE is a non-profit. All the EU has to do is reach out to MITRE and be willing to fund the project.

I know that they are a 501(c)3, but they have significant revenue and intellectual property, so in order to do the lift and shift, there would need to be some money changing hands to accomplish it. Not only that, but being owned by the EU gives the ability for MITRE employees to have the option to immigrate to the EU to protect against any retaliation. I cannot believe I am typing that second sentence, but here we ar…

> Not only that, but being owned by the EU gives the ability for MITRE employees to have the option to immigrate to the EU to protect against any retaliation.

According to which rule would "owning by the EU" result in an option to immigrate? Immigration is handled on a per country basis. I don't see how the EU provide such an option.

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Post by pohuing »

ForOldHack wrote: post #186
chris_wot wrote: post #91

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So much for the wunderkinds in DOGE.

Soon to be powned, by their own extreme short sightedness. Duh.

Soon to be? They already failed to deploy a website safely by exposing the db. https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...

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Post by willy_k »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #342
tmpz22 wrote: post #75

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Destroy, destroy, destroy. Promise to rebuild but don't. Take it all.

Did they promise to rebuild? If I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt (which I hate), it's a shotgun approach; cut things relentlessly and see what falls apart. Chaos engineering applied to a country and / or the world.

That’s exactly what it is, and they said as much repeatedly while campaigning. Voters, in their zealotry against the perceived status quo, failed to realize how much of what we have right now you don’t want to cut recklessly, as well as just how reckless the people that they were choosing to do that job were.

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Post by cantrecallmypwd »

4ndrewl wrote: post #296

To the "I wish HN would stay out of politics" crew. You can stay out of politics, but politics will always come and find you.

Yep. It's also true of people who think they can simply move out of the US and that "solves" the problem too. America's problems are still (almost) everyone's problems too.

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Post by paganel »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #301
4ndrewl wrote: post #296

To the "I wish HN would stay out of politics" crew. You can stay out of politics, but politics will always come and find you.

Everything is political now by design. It's meant to reach into every facet of society and community and restructure it.

Agree, but it goes both ways, with technology (that many of us here have helped create and maintain) also reaching out into every facet of society and community, many times in close symbiosis with the political powers that be, to the detriment of said society and community.

Not 100% sure what I wanted to say, maybe that said politics (and the political as a whole) wouldn't have invaded almost our entire lives without the help of technology.

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