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Re: Convert Linux to Windows

#351

Is there a Wine like library that helps running macOS apps on Linux?

yes, whisky https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky

> A modern Wine wrapper for macOS built with SwiftUI

I think you misunderstood GP's request of "running macOS apps on Linux" so you swapped the host and guest OS, and then transposed the guest OS under "emulation"

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

#352

Virtualization works far better than wine. Just copy the window frame buffer to the linux host.

As someone stuck in macOS trying to run docker, I can tell you that the impedance mismatch between a what a "file" is, and its "location", and the meaning of "listen on localhost", and how much "memory" an application has makes virtualization absolutely horrible for trying to run just one program on a different OS (or arch) than the rest of your day to day

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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> wondering what really needed improved Maybe not much? A few months ago, I ran out of power (my mistake, I use full screen apps to avoid the distraction, so I didn't realize I was unplugged) After plugging in and restarting Linux then the ancient version of Word I was using, I got a pleasant surprise: the "autosaved" version of the document I was editing, with nothing lost! As for llm, Excel 2010 may not have been m…

So you're saying you're using Word 2010 and have no problem with files created recently? I find it surprising that modern word .docx is compatible with 15 year old Word

The modern Word suite’s basic format was introduced with Word 2010. So as long as the person who created the doc uses features that were previously present in Word 2010 they’d be fine.

Features from later versions will either not show up or show up as boxes

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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To add some validity here, I think to an extent we already see distributions aimed at converting Windows users moving in this direction. Zorin OS has Wine support for .exe's almost out of the box, and there's Steam OS / Proton, where (if I recall correctly) the official guidelines for the Steam Deck state that developers should NOT create native Linux ports for new games, but rather optimize around Proton itself.

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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Probably because it's implicitly pirated. No one is sharing windows freeware this way, because there's no demand for it. It'll be MS Office, Photoshop, CAD, etc. -- stuff for which there's still no good OSS alternative, and for which the barrier to entry is high. It would take a large organization with enough connections to cut through this. You'd probably need to cut a deal so you could distribute their software, an…

They do cover that in https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-app-authors/requirements#l... , but I don't buy it in the general case because Windows isn't synonymous with proprietary isn't synonymous with non-redistributable licenses. Sure, I doubt there's a legal way to ship Microsoft Office on flathub, but there are plenty of shareware programs that I think would be fine (though IANAL, ofc) right up to FOSS that happens…

I don’t think it’s necessarily that either. They probably just want some guarantees that the app will keep working, instead of someone submitting 100s of wine apps and having them break eventually.

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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> These are however the same on Linux .. that doesn't break old code An example from another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43519949

Apologies, but "I heard that..." is not an example.

The phrase you quoted is not from the comment I linked; you’ve quoted from a response. Here’s the comment I have linked above:

> I have flatpaks from several years ago that no longer work (Krita) due to some GL issues.

That’s an example of Linux GPU APIs being unstable in practice, and container images not helping to fix that.

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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He is not wrong. My software compiled with Borland Delphi 1.0 works beautifully with Wine under Linux and works just good as well under Windows.

I'm saying this as Java developer. Delphi eventually proved itself to be the true "compile once, run everywhere". Can imagine others who wrote executables for Windows before the .NET times can relate to similar experiences.

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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> Thesis: We should create a distro of Linux that runs Windows binaries by default via Wine. On Debian you're one package away: sudo apt install wine-binfmt Otherwise you're still pretty close: echo 'none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc defaults 0 0' >> /etc/fstab mount -a echo ':DOSWin:M::MZ::/usr/bin/wine:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register

Yeah, that has been the default for a lot of Linux distributions for quite some time now (if you install wine).

not sure I want my parents to be able to double click Windows binaries and have them execute with their privs

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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I've read the article and the comments with interest. I just have a question: if Windows ABI is so stable that 20-year-old programs are guaranteed to run, why are there computers with Win95 or NT that nobody dares touching lest some specific software stops working? I see plenty of these in industrial environments, but also in public libraries, corporate databases, etc.

> if Windows ABI is so stable that 20-year-old programs are guaranteed to run

That's not actually true; there are no guarantees. Microsoft does a best effort to ensure the majority of applications continue to work. But there are billions of applications, they're not all going to work. Many applications don't even adhere to the Win32 API properly. Microsoft will sometimes, if the app is important enough, ensure even misbehaving applications work properly.

Re: Convert Linux to Windows

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This is really interesting. I thought it was impossible to run newer versions of Office on Linux. Myself I often prefer LibreOffice, but more options are more options!

Office 2013, last non Click2Run version, worked wonderfully on Wine few years ago

When I did my tests, Office 2007 and 2010 were the most stable

I will try Office 2013 (I'd like a version that works well in wine64!)

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