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Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by amluto »

legitster wrote: post #204
packetlost wrote: post #12

I think it has more to do with a gradual industry-wide race to the bottom in terms of quality. Reliability, attention to detail, correctness occupy a tiny fraction of the "budget" compared to security, slopping out features, and beating competition to market. I suspect that startup culture being the crucible where a large portion of engineers learned their chops and the massive amount of new blood in the industry who…

> a gradual industry-wide race to the bottom in terms of quality I'm going to disagree. This is a false nostalgia. 15 years ago the market for consumer laptops that were not MacBooks straight up sucked. If you walk into a Best Buy today, almost any laptop you buy is going to blow any laptop from back then out of the water in terms of build quality. And credit where it's due, in no small part it came from playing catc…

As someone who recently walked into a Best Buy with a family member and bought a laptop, I respectfully disagree.

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Post by smelendez »

Exuma wrote: post #339

When i type on iMessages, any time the message gets longer than ~8 sentences, ie... a mildly long message, it starts to lag extremely bad, where 1 keystroke has like a 250ms delay. it gets worse the more characters get added on ive tried every single fix i can find, from turning off AI to predictive text. nothing fixes it. so many other people have this issue... it is absolutely insane a messaging app cannot message

I’ve had this occasionally but luckily it hasn’t persistently.

Also annoyingly, I don’t consistently get messages on my Mac. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t, with no way of knowing what I’m missing without looking at my phone.

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Post by dismalaf »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #340
pico303 wrote: post #331

As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

Windows is great. Windows laptops are universally garbage.

They become a lot better when you install Linux.

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Post by wpm »

rafram wrote: post #240
flohofwoe wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, yeah. It doesn't happen when adding a new color to the "Colours" row at the bottom even though this happens with the same color selection UI widget. I see this Custom Colour thingie at the top-right corner of the Wallpaper section, above a "Show on all Spaces" checkbox and left of a fairly big representation of the current desktop background. After a bit of tinkering: this Custom Colour element is replac…

This is an incredibly tiny bug in a component that dates back to NeXT [1], but you should use Feedback Assistant and report to Apple. [1]: http://euclid.psych.yorku.ca/SCS/Gallery/colorpick.html

Where does the link you posted say anything about a bug?

I’ll grant I might just be mole-eyesing it, it’s been a long day.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #340
pico303 wrote: post #331

As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

Windows is great. Windows laptops are universally garbage.

What? The only 'great' Windows since 7 is LTSC.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by tehlike »

We have a good set of feature requests from app store that would make catching issues like this infinitely easy.

1. Revamp TestFlight - 10k users is very little when user base is 100m+ users. 2. Improve phased roll out capabilities 3. Introduce a/b testing at release level to test old/new binaries at binary level (vs at feature, which is also a must have).

These 3 can catch 99% of release bound issues, no problem.

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Post by K7PJP »

flohofwoe wrote: post #68

Here's my personal canary in the coal mine that something must be fundamentally broken in Apple's software development process: - on a recent macOS version, right click on the desktop, select 'change wallpaper' => the new settings panel opens - click on 'Custom Color' - now hold and drag around the 'color cursor' in the color selection circle for a few seconds - stop dragging and notice how the color cursor continues…

I can't repro this on macOS 15.3.1 with an Apple Studio Display. What display are you using? It's likely something related to color space translation.

Edit: Repro-ed using the additional steps you mentioned below. As someone who handles external bug reports and writes them, it's so often the case that there are additional steps or a specific start state required, which both prevents reproducing the bug and narrows the affected user base.

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Post by forrestthewoods »

dismalaf wrote: post #353
forrestthewoods wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is great. Windows laptops are universally garbage.

They become a lot better when you install Linux.

As someone who makes video games in C++ I’m going to have to disrespectfully disagree.

But I will admit that SteamDeck is great. It’s deeply ironic that the best API for Linux gaming is Win32.

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Post by greendave »

inasio wrote: post #152

My daughter uses one of my old 2017 Macbook pros (nice hardware, everything works fine). I learned yesterday that she cannot use Pages because OSX cannot be upgraded to 10.14, which is a requirement for Pages (I suspect the same thing will happen with other Apple software).

Something there doesn't add up. Mojave came out in late 2018. It's simply not the case there is any 2017 Apple hardware it doesn't support. Indeed, laptop support goes back to anything made in 2012 or newer.

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Post by mfer »

dandellion wrote: post #342
pico303 wrote: post #331

As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

I know the feeling. I'm forced to use a Mac laptop for work, and it's really made me appreciate Linux.

Which distro do you use? I've run a mac and Linux laptop and the Linux setup keeps sending me back to Mac.
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