Sounds like the world of demolition man
GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
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Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#352Obesity causes many health problems, but it's also a symptom - of our poor relationship with food, of the way American society is set up around instant gratification, of the predatory nature of food manufacturers. Though treating the symptom is undeniably good, it also lets the deeper problems that lead to it go unchecked, and my fear is that it will lead to novel problems down the line. How recreational drugs are be…
The destructive behavior is overeating and this treatment eliminates the overeating. The problem is human beings are imperfect creatures. This drugs corrects the hormone imbalance that leads to overeating. It is fixing the actual problem. The idea that medical treatment makes us weaker is genuinely harmful nonsense on the order of claiming vaccines make us sick, and you should seriously reconsider your position here.
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Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not going to lie all this sounds like heaven to me. I absolutely hate the way my appetite works. I have a genuine dysfunction with food. It goes back as far as I can remember. My cravings never stop, even after being satiated. It’s an endless cycle of weight gain then loss then gain as my willpower fluctuates for a variety of reasons. My insurance only recently started to cover these weight loss drugs, and I have…
I'm a few months into this drug as well, and I have to say, it doesn't offer control . What it offers is a lack of cravings & appetite . That is different, remarkably so. Control would mean I might still feel hungry. Ever. Or that I could decide to eat heavily at one meal, but I don't and as long as I take the drugs, I won't. That doesn't feel like control, it feels like I've had something removed. I guess it's a mat…
Note that if you're doing this treatment at home (aka bought a vial and a syringe off the Internet and are injecting yourself), you can simply give yourself slightly less next injection. It's not a binary "hunger (y/n)" but more of a spectrum. (anecdotally)
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
> being overweight will be a choice (choosing not to take the drug) This may be an ignorant take and if it is I apologize, but isn't it a choice anyway? A calorie deficit and minimal exercise will have you cutting body fat. Or am I missing something here?
It's possible your personal experience with food is different than other people's, and it is easier for you to make that choice than others.
That is fair. Most people in my circle are some form of endurance athlete, climbers, etc so I live in a bubble but some of the comments I see feel alarming- like an over correction in the opposite direction.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
> being overweight will be a choice Not everyone can take these drugs. Some people will have severe side effects. It's very common to have nausea, vomiting, etc., and some people will experience these frequently enough that the prescribing doctor will rescind the prescription.
gastroparesis is a real side effect two, it’s where the food in your digestive tract stops moving. As in 30% of food is present after 4 hours The rate is over 1% which isn’t a lot nor is it nothing https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2810542
It looks like it's mostly caused by having too high doses of GLP-1 too soon.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#356I've been on it for about a year and it has not helped with my new impulse to buy home gym equipment.
(Lost ~35 lbs before tirzepatide, ~50 more lbs on it)
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#357The article posits that 80% of the top income quintile will be on this medication. I have to ask, why? (I'm not in the US, I should add). Like, sure, is the average American overweight? Yes. Are 80% of the top 20% of earners? Seems pretty doubtful, plenty of the rich look to be in reasonable shape. That statistic suggests that 80% of successful people have such poor impulse control that they end up seriously overweig…
I think that’s 80% of people using the drug will be in the top quintile
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#358Interesting, but I’m not sure I buy it. I certainly don’t think Simon is preparing for this massive economic shift; I think they’re reacting to an existing trend. > America's largest mall operator, Simon Property Group, is converting anchor stores into medical centers and wellness spaces. They're doing this because they recognize the writing on the wall. Malls have been dying for years, and COVID felt like the nail i…
Malls around DC are crazier than ever. But I am not sure if people are spending money or not.
The Indianapolis metropolitan region used to have 4 major shopping malls, all owned at one time by Simon.
One was completely shut down in 2022 after years of decline, another lost all but one anchor and was auctioned off for unpaid property taxes.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#359Obesity causes many health problems, but it's also a symptom - of our poor relationship with food, of the way American society is set up around instant gratification, of the predatory nature of food manufacturers. Though treating the symptom is undeniably good, it also lets the deeper problems that lead to it go unchecked, and my fear is that it will lead to novel problems down the line. How recreational drugs are be…
The destructive behavior is overeating and this treatment eliminates the overeating. The problem is human beings are imperfect creatures. This drugs corrects the hormone imbalance that leads to overeating. It is fixing the actual problem. The idea that medical treatment makes us weaker is genuinely harmful nonsense on the order of claiming vaccines make us sick, and you should seriously reconsider your position here.
> The idea that medical treatment makes us weaker
Do you have any concern that it's an over correction and leads to significant undereating? Which is also terrible for you. Genuine question for the record.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#360Obesity causes many health problems, but it's also a symptom - of our poor relationship with food, of the way American society is set up around instant gratification, of the predatory nature of food manufacturers. Though treating the symptom is undeniably good, it also lets the deeper problems that lead to it go unchecked, and my fear is that it will lead to novel problems down the line. How recreational drugs are be…
The destructive behavior is overeating and this treatment eliminates the overeating. The problem is human beings are imperfect creatures. This drugs corrects the hormone imbalance that leads to overeating. It is fixing the actual problem. The idea that medical treatment makes us weaker is genuinely harmful nonsense on the order of claiming vaccines make us sick, and you should seriously reconsider your position here.
Where did these hormone imbalances come from, when and why did they arise, why aren't they uniformly distributed across the globe? Answering these questions may lead to a root cause of obesity and obviate the need for medication altogether.