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Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Post by sidibe »

wrfrmers wrote: post #333
Zigurd wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That, and the standard for rejecting racists shouldn't be set at "hyper racist." Especially since we are seeing supposedly well educated young men in an environment that has normalized anything less than "hyper."

It seems as good a time as any to point out that the environment in which people like this are making decisions is the one in which equal opportunity/affirmative action/DEI become tenable, if not necessary. For those of you whinging about how unfair scope-broadening to force decision makers to at least consider marginalized people for opportunities is, the problem is not these initiatives, it's these people, who make…

What I've learned recently from these meritocracy advocates is competence is about your skin color. Black person working on a plane = disaster waiting to happen, no further evidence needed, but if you've got a nice and competent skin color and no other relevant credentials you're good to go at Andreessen Horowitz

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Post by Gud »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #282
tomrod wrote: post #225

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What a terrible name the man ruined by choosing, a perfectly cromulent Heinleinian term.

I think Heinlein ideologically is somewhat a fellow traveler with Musk and Thiel types.

What makes you say that? I would guess he would despise these little men with big egos.

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Post by rdtsc »

tomrod wrote: post #348
rdtsc wrote: post #215

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> Oh please. Oh sure, anytime > Good faith requires facts, which this current administration does not use. I don't know, the OP (or GP?) post said they were wanted to continue discussing the issue in good faith. I'll take them at their word until I see them saying something else, what else should we do, downvote and flag everyone to hell? And it seems it's not about the administration having good or bad faith or good…

Since your later comment is dead, here is a timely news update to help you remain informed. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...

Thanks for the link, that's helpful.

> Claiming the new Haitian community threatened “the good White residents” of Springfield, Blood Trump members descended on the city in August during Springfield’s annual Jazz & Blues festival, marching downtown while displaying guns and waving swastika flags.

That's horrible. The city sued them, hopefully they all land in jail for a long time.

> “the Blood Tribe made good on those threats,” noting that the city and its residents received at least 33 bomb threats in subsequent weeks

That looks like a slam dunk case, hopefully the city judges and prosecutors there have no problem handling it.

I saw the mention about Temporary Protected Status of the immigrants at the end. I had no idea that existed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status.

I'd would think the fact that disgusting group marched there and made bomb threats would make the community and the government protect them even more. The city launched a law suite after all.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Post by tomrod »

rdtsc wrote: post #353
tomrod wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since your later comment is dead, here is a timely news update to help you remain informed. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...

Thanks for the link, that's helpful. > Claiming the new Haitian community threatened “the good White residents” of Springfield, Blood Trump members descended on the city in August during Springfield’s annual Jazz & Blues festival, marching downtown while displaying guns and waving swastika flags. That's horrible. The city sued them, hopefully they all land in jail for a long time. > “the Blood Tribe made good on thos…

Now ask the question -- if Trump hadn't amplified allegations of this community as illegal immigrants eating dogs and cats, would they have been harassed and threatened?

To me, the counterfactual clearly points to no.

The Harris/Trump debate gave a set of clear accusations on film, so many that the denizens of the internet made several clever remixes to fight bullies with humor.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA

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Post by rayiner »

motorest wrote: post #332
rayiner wrote: post #319

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Does that make America “a nation of immigrants?” Is it a defining characteristic or an incidental one? America is also a majority white nation. I wouldn’t say that’s a defining characteristic that should define our future immigration policies.

> Does that make America “a nation of immigrants?” The vast majority of Americans are immigrants. > Is it a defining characteristic or an incidental one? Is this even a question? Again, the vast majority of Americans are immigrants. > I wouldn’t say that’s a defining characteristic that should define our future immigration policies. You can try to move the goalpost as far as you'd like and blow as many ignorant and i…

I simply read your post to make it make sense. That is, you’re saying “America is a nation of immigrants” to refer to some articulated principle—like free speech or property rights—that should compel the electorate to adhere to some policy going forward.

If by “nation of immigrants” you mean merely the fact that most Americans have immigrant ancestry, your original post makes no sense. Why would that incidental fact have any bearing on what America’s immigration policy should be going forward? Mere accidents of history don't compel a democratic republic to maintain any particular course.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

Would like to point out that "finding corruption" -- as Trump today stated was the purpose of King Elon' efforts (which is odd because I thought it was to cut "waste") is _exactly_ the way that Xi Jinping was able to get rid of all opposition in China after being chosen as Premier, to where he is now completely unopposed in anything he may want to do. (Was living in China during those years.)

Beware.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #130

Elez, the guy who pushed the changes the devs were not allowed to review to the production payment system, is the guy that has just resigned because of hyper racist comments he made in the past that have come to light. If in doubt, I recommend checking them out because they're incredibly awful, to the extent that it makes you wonder if the payment system he pushed to had ethnic information attached to it.

He's been reinstated. Racism totally OK now! Woohoo!

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Post by insane_dreamer »

Vought, the new head of OMB -- the agency which no one has heard of but which actually is extremely influential in terms of government agencies -- is one of the major authors of Project 2025. Let that sink in a bit.

So yeah, Trump was lying about Project 2025 (but what else is new?)

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Post by insane_dreamer »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #7
chris_wot wrote: post #5

How did you Americans allow any of this?

Some of us don’t agree with the rampant waste in our government. Some of us also don’t have faith that the system can fix itself without drastic measures like this. I’ll admit I’m wrong if and when it turns out that I am. Until then, I’m cheering it on.

> Some of us don’t agree with the rampant waste in our government.

Sure, there's waste as in any large organization, and streamlining is great. But to say that all US foreign aid is "rampant waste" and USAID should be shut down? Because it's not being shut down because it was "wasteful" but because it's full of "radical leftists" (supposedly).

None of the purges at any of these agencies so far have had anything to go with "government waste". They are based on ideology.

Come on, open your eyes -- they're being pretty open about what this is about.

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