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Probably 3x - 10x cost If You have the infrastructure to manufacture it. And they years it take to build infrastructure in china its months, in us? Years. Just look into how long it takes to put a bus station or a factory
And we’ve got none of that. Right now, a US made iPhone doesn’t exist, and is years away from existing. It can’t be bought with any amount of dollars.
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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong
#352This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes. I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages…
The problem is that your important R&D purchases are competing against the lipstick order of the neighbors wife (or his own) or that cute little cat toy.
IDK who's to blame for if R&D then starts having problems, but it might be R&D department itself if they are happy to compete with lipsticks, in terms of shipping.
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#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because there's nowhere in the US like Shenzhen, Guangdong or Hong Kong. Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You need all the ancillary industries around the production to be there, along with being competitive and commoditized as well. When a supplier has something go wrong a line of manufacturing doesn't go down. You go down the street to the same guy sel…
> Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You left out the part about dormitories full of modern-day slaves, complete with nets so they don't leap to their deaths. Generally this is frowned upon in the West. India and Vietnam wouldn't tolerate it either, despite being developing countries. Wasn't there a riot at Apple's India factory over work conditions or am…
Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong
#354This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes. I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages…
Move. Like the rest of us had to when all the tech was in the USA.
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>>The idea that China is a major security threat is basically brand new You're kidding right?
timing is important China is always a 'security threat' to the US since 1946, but it never get a high priority untill now - 1946-1991 Cold War with Soviet - 2001-2017 Global War on Terror in MiddleEast - 2018-now Trade War and Chip War with China I highly doubt the memory capacity of americans, it seems like americans can only remember things that are "present" it's just like the meme 1. Remove the chip 2. Overwrite…
Only because its been recently revealed that everyone is a security threat to the US.
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Building out mostly unused high-speed rail interconnections and being in debt is a well-known sign of a country that thinks short-term. the local government gets paid for building these useless rails out. China Sees More Stations Shut Down as High-Speed Rail Debt Crisis Deepens https://english.pardafas.com/china-sees-more-stations-shut-d... China’s High-Speed Rail Is Dead: Over 4,000 Ghostly Stations, Billions Spent,…
Building nothing and being in even more in debt is the high IQ play.
Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong
#357Anyone got a non-intuited, horses-mouth reason why? I suspect (ie, intuit) that its actually an attack on the USPS, not on China. The party of government doesn't like the post office, and this is to teach us not to like the post office either. I guess if they stopped using electric cars, they might like the post office again.
DHL/FedEx do lots of declaration/tax work for imported packages. More often than not, they inspects the package before sealing. USPS don't -- they simply forward from HongKongPost or ChinaPost. If the local post office in HK or CN does not cooperation, they can't do anything.
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#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You left out the part about dormitories full of modern-day slaves, complete with nets so they don't leap to their deaths. Generally this is frowned upon in the West. India and Vietnam wouldn't tolerate it either, despite being developing countries. Wasn't there a riot at Apple's India factory over work conditions or am…
> complete with nets so they don't leap to their deaths. These nets are everywhere here. In the our other building's (which is an R&D facility where nobody is a modern day slave by your definition) stair well, construction sites, bridges, etc. I saw it all over Europe in buildings, bridges, etc.
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#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You left out the part about dormitories full of modern-day slaves, complete with nets so they don't leap to their deaths. Generally this is frowned upon in the West. India and Vietnam wouldn't tolerate it either, despite being developing countries. Wasn't there a riot at Apple's India factory over work conditions or am…
> You left out the part about dormitories full of modern-day slaves, complete with nets so they don't leap to their deaths. Generally this is frowned upon in the West. Frowned upon, but you (the US) do have them: https://www.goldengate.org/district/district-projects/suicid... Seen them here in Germany, too: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vDSL4HeQrLLfYU2m7
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> We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US Not said often enough is that we DONT WANT to make much of this stuff in the US. People seriously don’t get how remarkable it is that the U.S. is able to get other countries to send them actual usable stuff in return for pieces of paper that the U.S. prints. And how much richer this makes Americans. I don’t believe the U.S. should be fully free market. Clear…
The new problem is the factories making a lot of this stuff are heavily polluting, and we have little to no control over that because they are abroad. Part of a good climate strategy must involve regulating them somehow.
Either all the things cost way more or everyone from employees to owners lives like peasants.