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Re: Operator research preview

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Post by lm28469 »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #155

What is fascinating about this announcement is if you look into future after considerable improvements in product and the model, we will be just chatting with ChatGPT to book dinner tables, flights, buy groceries and do all sort of mundane and hugely boring things we do on the web, just by talking to the agents. I'd definitely love that.

I just booked a restaurant table, it took me maybe 10s on opentable. Booking flights are well under a minute now. Grocery shopping is a 15m stop on my daily walk around the block.

If these are your pain points in life, and they're worth spending $500b to solve, you must live in an insane bubble.

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by lm28469 »

sumedh wrote: post #280
windowlessmonad wrote: post #177

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Are our attention spans so shot that we consider booking a reservation at a restaurant or buying groceries "hugely boring"? And do we value convenience so much that we're willing to sacrifice a huge breadth of options for whatever sponsor du jour OpenAI wants to serve us just to save less than 10 minutes? And would this company spend billions of dollars for this infinitesimally small increase in convenience? No, of c…

> Are our attention spans so shot that we consider booking a reservation at a restaurant or buying groceries "hugely boring"? Dont be limited with these examples. How about Airline booking, try different airlines, go to the confirmation screen. then the user can check if everything is allright and if the user wants to finish the booking on the most cheapest one.

Google flight does that for you, and your browser can already full in 80% of the form fields. I don't remember spending more than 1 minute booking tickets. Deciding where to go takes 50-100x more time, the booking speed is such a non issue.

What's the goal of technology ? Automate everything so that we don't have to live anymore ? We might as well build matrix pods at that point

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by thomasboyer »

rednafi wrote: post #224

“Available to pro users in the US”—another win for the EU bureaucrats. I’m kind of amused by how big tech companies in the US seem to have given up on complying with this legislative nonsense and instead just nerf their products in the EU or stop offering them there altogether.

I am curious what precisely this "legislative nonsense" is.

There seems to be some sort of consensus among legal teams of big American tech companies that the EU is sometimes not worth it for now since OpenAI are not the only one not offering some service in the EU (I'm thinking meta.ai).

Still I haven't been able to find information about what exactly prevents them from selling anything in the EU.

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by kandesbunzler »

easterncalculus wrote: post #22

From the slide deck on the livestream: "[Operator safety risks and mitigations] Harmful tasks: User is misaligned" Looking forward to seeing some more of the examples for when openai considers their users as "misaligned", whatever that actually even means anymore.

If someone used this service to do really bad things then you morons would cry too so they cant really win either way with you people

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Post by throwaway314155 »

axus wrote: post #285
throwaway314155 wrote: post #266

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It's absurd to me that simply because it's Karpathy's account, everyone immediately changes their tune about posting "slop" AI summaries; something which is normally downvoted into oblivion on this site. People go even further to downvote any criticism?? Pick a lane people. This will be business as usual in a week and Operator posts will go back to being thoroughly downvoted by then too.

When the first person does it, it's hacking/testing. If lots of people do it, it's cargo-culting and riding coattails.

i guess that's true.

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by amarcheschi »

agnishom wrote: post #342
karpathy wrote: post #254

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Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Ope…

That reply was ironic, but also condescending and tone deaf

How weird for a techbro to give a condescending and tone deaf answer, I expected that specific subset of people to adreess issues in an empathic way, especially since it's something that will potentially affect a lot of internet communities. Detached af from reality, as I can see

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by nxobject »

ansonhw wrote: post #331
karpathy wrote: post #246

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This is the video of how the parent comment was made: https://operator.chatgpt.com/v/6792c91d5b048192b5dbad908de05... But there are many things missing from the video. - Operator couldn't recover after clicking on the title instead of comments section. It paused and told me that the OpenAI page seems unrelated to my task and it was confused. I had to tell it to click on "comments" not on the title. - Not shown is tha…

When: 1/ More accurate + less supervision 2/ Faster 3/ Background + Parallel Will be the magic moment. Currently like supervising a grandparent using the web. But there's huge potential if ^^^ happens. Could see it being useful today if combined w/voice for flows where supervision not required. Example: asking w/voice to make reservations while driving.

Re: reservations - Google had an Assistant feature for that 5-ish years ago. I think it only really worked in a limited number of domains though (restaurants, restaurants, and more restaurants…)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VN56jQMWM

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by saagarjha »

carbocation wrote: post #304
dang wrote: post #302

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So far HN users seem to be doing a pretty job of flagging them. Of course, the big question is what to do if/when they're smart enough to fool everybody.

Offer a Turing award to the bot-trainer?

Turns out Hacker News was actually the long play to train AGI.

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by htjatg »

amarcheschi wrote: post #356
agnishom wrote: post #342

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That reply was ironic, but also condescending and tone deaf

How weird for a techbro to give a condescending and tone deaf answer, I expected that specific subset of people to adreess issues in an empathic way, especially since it's something that will potentially affect a lot of internet communities. Detached af from reality, as I can see

Especially since his courses could be replaced by an AI.
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