This post got political almost instantly. Unfortunate, but expected in today's client, I suppose. Regardless, what is this exactly?
Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
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I couldn’t name a single country on earth where I would be certain that this could not happen. 10 years is a long time, a lot can happen politically.
We’re talking about going from fully innocent and legal action to full on death penalty in just over two terms (depending on country). That seems quite a stretch for many countries where the death penalty was abolished. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country It doesn’t seem plausible that in countries where even euthanasia isn’t allowed things could get so out of hand that the death penalty would…
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#353I feel like this would've been better as a VSCode extension. Copilot, Q, Gemini, all were able to take this approach. Also, VSCode isn't considered a full IDE and adding some AI features isn't enough to change that. It seems like they forked VS Code just for the ability to say they "created an IDE" in the same way other projects fork Chromium to "build a browser".
Nah the extension API is pretty limited. Copilot uses proprietary API’s not available to extensions. If you really want an integrated experience, and not just a sidebar UI, you need to go the same route as Cursor and fork Code-OSS (the MIT-licensed part of VS Code, analogous to Chromium for Chrome)
I don't think it has any special api access?
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You could say all of that about the American empire. We renamed it to the Gulf of America, talk about annexing Canada, own Hawaii, fund the colony of Israel, invented Manifest Destony, destabilize democracy via the CIA, firebombed Vietnam, etc etc etc And don't talk to me abt Chinese spying when the NSA and Five Eyes hoovers up and processes the entire internet. Re: propaganda, read your own comment. The American pro…
The US is largely talk, vs. the substantial action China takes and has taken against territories it considers its own. The US importantly has a robust and independent judiciary where a fair trial is infinitely more likely than in China. Even for foreigners, the US legal system is accessible, understandable, and weildable for protection. It’s far from perfect, but 100x what you’d get in China.
Which countries did China invade in the last 3 decades?
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Who cares what political stunts the US is currently going through? Except for the ~4% of the world who happens to live there, the rest of us tend to choose tools based on either what others around us use, or what we've found to work best for us. If that happens to be an editor from China instead of US, I don't know what difference that would make? Both governments in those countries are crazy about spying on both the…
then you should install everything that comes out of China, Russia, North Korea, Iran
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You don't trust the OS do that kind of safeguarding?
Desktop OS's typically don't protect one application's data from another, or the system's data from an application. At least not out of the box without configuring some kind of sandboxing solution. The user-based permissions model is an outdated dinosaur from a time when we could trust the applications we run on our systems to act on our behalf. Applications now act on the developer's behalf, often against the user.…
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#358There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted. That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that ar…
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If you pay out of pocket it means it's not an approved tool by your company, which means you can be fired and sued for leaking their intellectual property. Also 20$ per month is way less than what it costs them to run it. Eventually they will need to charge way more to cover their costs, and the people who can't code without an AI assistant will need to pony up :)
The coding IDEs at $20/mo do not result in your IP being shared with the AI provider for training. That only applies to regular ChatGPT use. And developers actively using AI for coding can easily spend more than $20/mo for the API. There are people spending $10-15/day in OpenAI API usage working through Cline.
The issue would be based on the terms of employment and the software license. There’s likely a provision that just says “don’t share” regardless of what the other party will use it for.
To OP’s point, if your company is paying for the sub, then sending the codebase data would be an approved use of the codebase as part of your job.
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It is a lot outside of the US. Even with an ok developer salary in Belgium, I'd have to really have a use for something to pay $20/mo.
If it improves your performance by 1%, then for a salary of $2000/mo, that $20/mo is breakeven. If it benefits you more than 1%, then you're in profit. Of course, if you're in a job that doesn't actually care about performance, and performing won't lead to better salary at some point, then it may not matter.
I get making economic/stats based analysis like this, but is your boss going to notice that 1% to give you a raise they otherwise wouldn’t? Probably not…
Your company culture can be performance-minded and this still be true.