Still worse than public transport, wastes more resources and endangers cyclists and pedestrians. I have yet to see anything that deserves to be called progress in self-driving. Yet another scam to sell more wasteful, inefficient vehicles.
A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
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Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#352Remember kids: everything that can, eventually, will be turned against you! Some fun predictions, gathered from other comments + my own: - You ll have to dispute a dead family member against a faceless company that conveniently deleted crucial logs. - They will make you wear wireless tags every time you cross a street, and fine & shame you, if you don't. -Tags will contain your real identity, so that you ll get a bon…
> - You ll have to dispute a dead family member against a faceless company that conveniently deleted crucial logs. On the contrary, of all my negative experiences biking in NYC over 10 years, the _only_ time I was able to hold a driver accountable was when they were riding a Revel scooter in which case the "faceless company" took them off their platform. This comment seems to significantly overestimate how easy it to…
https://sfist.com/2024/04/18/71-year-old-driver-skates-with-...
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
In England we call them "Indicators" as opposed to turn signals. My driving instructor said, they are call that because they are only indicating they might go that way. Never assume they will. It was some defensive driving advice. I can understand that it's annoying that inconsistent use of turn signals is an annoyance, it isn't as bad a people that don't use them at all, but my understand is that the American road s…
We have roundabouts. We don’t have them everywhere but then I bet you don’t either. My home town in Idaho has built at least five I am aware of in as many years, with more planned. My neighborhood in Seattle plants a tree in the middle of unmarked intersections which effectively creates a mini roundabout.
Yes, we have them in the US, but we don't have enough of them that you can expect that all drivers know what to do with them. It's entirely too common for approaching drivers to be unaware that they must yield to vehicles already in the circle.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless we really can finally stop drunk driving overnight after all these years of trying I don't agree the comparison should result in significantly different policy. I want to know how Waymo statistically compares to all of all the actual drivers when setting policy, not how Waymo compares to what we wish real drivers would have been like. The only mistake would be to compare solely to drunk drivers, which is what…
> ..not how Waymo compares to what we wish real drivers would have been like. I want to see "all the things", but in specific reply to this point, i want to see this because i have no intention to commit a DUI myself. So the bar for me personally is how well it'll do compared to safe drivers. Lots of stats are useful, but i don't think we should undersell the various "ai vs me" comparisons that individuals could use.…
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure cars are helpful for transporting stuff. But most car rides is one dude sitting alone in a 1.5 ton machine moving his lazy ass around town. Public transport, if done correctly, can replace that, also outside of big cities. There are good examples across Europe for this.
> Sure cars are helpful for transporting stuff. But most car rides is one dude sitting alone in a 1.5 ton machine moving his lazy ass around town. I do not know about lazy. I find it a lot easier to use public transport myself. I would like to see numbers for "most" especially outside the US. Very few of my car trips are by myself without something to carry. > Public transport, if done correctly, can replace that, al…
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
In England we call them "Indicators" as opposed to turn signals. My driving instructor said, they are call that because they are only indicating they might go that way. Never assume they will. It was some defensive driving advice. I can understand that it's annoying that inconsistent use of turn signals is an annoyance, it isn't as bad a people that don't use them at all, but my understand is that the American road s…
We have roundabouts. We don’t have them everywhere but then I bet you don’t either. My home town in Idaho has built at least five I am aware of in as many years, with more planned. My neighborhood in Seattle plants a tree in the middle of unmarked intersections which effectively creates a mini roundabout.
Oh you haven’t been to the UK if you think that. :) They are absolutely everywhere. Traffic planers love them.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#357Is there any possible future, where Waymo is NOT one of the major players in self driving software?
Have they solved their mapping problem? Because that, more so than the added Lidar hardware cost, seems like the lynchpin here: As soon as Tesla works, it works everywhere*. Last I heard Waymo, they have to do every city, one at a time – and there are a lot of cities.
It just doesn't seem like a huge problem? If you have cars equipped with high resolution Lidar and cameras, mapping new routes seems like it ought to scale as the fleet is expanded.
This problem seems embarrassingly parallel.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#358only the claims associated with vehicles registered to addresses (i.e., where the insured resides) within Waymo's operating zip codes in San Francisco, the Phoenix metropolitan region, Los Angeles, and Austin were included
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have they solved their mapping problem? Because that, more so than the added Lidar hardware cost, seems like the lynchpin here: As soon as Tesla works, it works everywhere*. Last I heard Waymo, they have to do every city, one at a time – and there are a lot of cities.
The mapping problem keeps getting brought up (often by Tesla enthusiasts). It just doesn't seem like a huge problem? If you have cars equipped with high resolution Lidar and cameras, mapping new routes seems like it ought to scale as the fleet is expanded. This problem seems embarrassingly parallel.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure cars are helpful for transporting stuff. But most car rides is one dude sitting alone in a 1.5 ton machine moving his lazy ass around town. Public transport, if done correctly, can replace that, also outside of big cities. There are good examples across Europe for this.
Ok but hear me out. Self driving public transit. Right now I have to walk 12 minutes to a bus stop because the one literally in front of my house was closed due to a lack of drivers. Then I wait 3-10 minutes for a bus that takes 20 minutes to get to the bus hub in my neighborhood. It takes 8 minutes to drive there. If my neighborhood bus route was replaced or supplemented with self driving shuttle busses feeding that…