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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by akira2501 »

bruce511 wrote: post #273
rqtwteye wrote: post #236

This seems to be a common trend everywhere. Instead of improving core functionality they add the latest buzzword tech, no matter it make sense or not. I am user of GaiaGPS to plan outdoors trips. Same there: the app is good but has some problems. Instead of fixing the problems they added social functionality which nobody really wants.

Hang on - notepad is the perfect place for a "rewrite my text" feature. And clearly its a useful too in a writing app that users would like. I get your complaint in general, but it does not seem like this is a good example of throwing random unrelated stuff in.

> And clearly its a useful too in a writing app that users would like

I don't believe it's useful. I don't think Notepad is a "writing app." And I'm fairly certain not a single user in the history of ever has asked for this.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by akira2501 »

daemin wrote: post #314

It seems not enough people are using AI features and therefore it is being put everywhere so that people can't help but use AI features. Instead of realising that people don't want these features and actively disable or avoid them, they've come to the conclusion that they're not being used because they're prominent enough, so they are being put everywhere so they cannot be missed. Windows is no longer a Personal Comp…

They spent all this money on training. Massive amounts of one time and recurring costs. They have no idea how to write it all down. They never planned that they might have to.

And people wonder why some of us were so insistent on not allowing this garbage pile of technologies to be open labeled 'AI.'

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by lxgr »

McNutty wrote: post #310
bruce511 wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hang on - notepad is the perfect place for a "rewrite my text" feature. And clearly its a useful too in a writing app that users would like. I get your complaint in general, but it does not seem like this is a good example of throwing random unrelated stuff in.

Couldn't disagree more. Notepad is a place to dump snippets of unformatted text, for a temporary duration unless I explicity save the file. I already didn't like that they added the tabs feature and autosave recently. If I want to do writing I'll use one of the 6 tools on my PC more suited to that task.

So many people aren't even aware that other tools exist, can't install them for corporate policy reasons etc.

In these cases, the best tool is the one you've already got.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by disqard »

ActionHank wrote: post #102
optymizer wrote: post #74

Software companies want to shove AI everywhere because it's the shiny new thing. Hardware companies love it because they can finally have a way to fight the "it's good enough for email and browsing" argument to sell us more hardware.

And yet, weirdly, MS have chosen to just make it their entire personality at this point. There has, for a number of years, been a move away from Windows to macOS and Linux for devs. I suspect this will start to accelerate because people don't want tools that are obnoxiously omnipresent. Carpenters have various ways to keep their most used tools at hand, but you don't see them wearing a charm bracelet of every tool th…

I love this visual -- carpenters carrying all of their tools around everywhere, gratuitously, obnoxiously, continuously :D

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by Terr_ »

_1tem wrote: post #69

Why do writing tools have to be a feature of every app instead of an operating-system wide tool like Apple Intelligence? Makes no sense whatsoever to just "sprinkle AI everywhere" except for specialized use cases.

> Why do writing tools have to be a feature of every app instead of an operating-system wide tool like Apple Intelligence?

Third option: Put it in its own app. I'll decide how I want it to "help".

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by llm_nerd »

autoexec wrote: post #345
llm_nerd wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Has someone told them? Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Putting an amorphous "AI-powered" on an imaginary product is nonsensical, and doesn't carry over to the conclusion that "people hate AI". Yes, I would be wary of a "AI-powered coffee maker" or an "AI-powered toothbrush" because t…

> Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/25-of-smartphone-owners-don... > Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble because they've…

>Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI

No True Scotsman all over here. Where people embrace and adopt AI, it isn't real. But a million incredibly dumb sociology surveys of nebulous, imaginary things are super convincing.

>Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble

Literally none of them are "in trouble". I mean, Google has kind of underperformed and is behind the ball, but absolutely none of them have retreated at all.

Seriously, this whole discussion is hilarious. Every single major company is dumping enormous efforts into AI, redoubling and redoubling again their commitment based upon market analysis and what they've seen. If you counter this by pointing at some asinine college survey of fantasy products with absurd titles, you might be deluding yourself.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by [deleted] »

EasyMark wrote: post #288
elpocko wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's basically autocomplete, spellcheck and refactoring, just based on a new technical approach. Those are not new or unusual features for a text editor.

I just think people want a nice zen experience in notepad without the buzz of tech and AI swarming them. Kind of like choosing pen and paper instead of opening up Word. If I want a text editor for "all of the above capabilities" it won't be notepad.

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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by sahmeepee »

nuancebydefault wrote: post #322
vundercind wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All it needed was a way to work with other newline formats cleanly. Adding much more than that (even tabs) makes it into a different thing that leaves a gap in the niche it used to fill.

That, and finally getting rid of keeping a lock on the file handle of the opened files. Sooo many times I needed explain someone that their directory could not get deleted or their apps failed to uninstall simply because they were still reading its readme.txt

Umm, not sure which version of notepad.exe keeps a lock on open files. None that I've used in the last 25 years.
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