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Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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No he wasn’t haha. The only thing he did was slide the company sideways via pre existing illegal monopoly. In fact, they lost most of their monopoly under his supervision . At no point did the quality of their products improve, and that’s evidenced with this year’s massive massive Windows outage, or Garmins mega ransomware, out a hundred other people who’ve been hacked via Windows. If you’re running Windows for anyth…

Vista was released under his watch too.

Vista was underrated, too.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Everyone, chill Regardless of how you feel about tipping culture we're not talking about the average person nor are we talking about the average * experience* . The dude is worth north of $100bn, and is making nearly $10k per minute![0]. Someone who cannot spend his wealth. Someone who'd have to spend tens of millions of dollars every single day just to stop his wealth from growing. Someone who makes money faster tha…

> Still, if I'm a regular somewhere and they are giving me special service, I'm gonna throw a few dollars into the tip jar. There are some philosophical problems there. The business/servers can't renegotiate the menu like that - if they aren't getting paid for a service and the customer didn't ask for it then there is no reason they should get more money for it. Also, an observation about how the economics of regular…

Actually, there is a restaurant where I go sometimes that when I pay cash instead of with a credit card, the owner gets so elated that rounds down the amount to pay in some 3-7%. The countertip I guess.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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post #299

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> Still, if I'm a regular somewhere and they are giving me special service, I'm gonna throw a few dollars into the tip jar. There are some philosophical problems there. The business/servers can't renegotiate the menu like that - if they aren't getting paid for a service and the customer didn't ask for it then there is no reason they should get more money for it. Also, an observation about how the economics of regular…

Actually, there is a restaurant where I go sometimes that when I pay cash instead of with a credit card, the owner gets so elated that rounds down the amount to pay in some 3-7%. The countertip I guess.

Restaurants and bars especially in my city love tax evasion - that's why they are so enthusiastic about cash payments.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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> Ballmer's attempt to buy Yahoo and disregard for touch screen phones is what defined his legacy. You are weirdly obsessed with that but Ballmer actually started Bing and bought Nokia to make touchscreen phones. I think you are extremely biased to the point of being entirely disconnected from the facts at hand. > Ability to buy right things is important too. Ballmer bought Skype and launched the foundation of what w…

Not OP, but Ballmer's attempt to reinvent Windows Mobile to compete with modern smartphones was too little too late. Microsoft during that era was one bad call after another. When Apple saw multitouch they made a phone; Microsoft made a giant table[0] (very little imagination beyond the Jeff Han demo[1]). When Microsoft saw the iPhone reception, they sunk 2 years an $1B into the Kin line of phones[2], which lasted al…

> As far as Teams goes... it is used a lot by companies that are all-in on O365, but Slack and Zoom were the two household names in the space during the pandemic.

Tell me you have no idea of what’s happening in the real world outside your small tech bubble in one sentence.

Nobody uses Slack outside of tech. They are virtually unknown in Europe.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

Tipping for a convenience item at the till really really sucks. Am I the only one sane on this? Best regards Norway

Hi Norway, The Netherlands here. I feel you ;-)

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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This article doesn’t understand what was fundamentally wrong with Ballmer’s leadership and what Nadella actually changed. The specific technologies that were successful is irrelevant. Microsoft has and continues to invest in nearly every computer related technology that may come around the corner or they got late on. The problem with Microsoft was everything went through Windows. The entire company was designed to pr…

> a red headed step child

Very good point, but please stop using this phrase.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

What frugality? He was paying the full price that it was being sold at.

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Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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"Everyone, chill" then proceeds to drop emphasis , F words and other strong words. Maybe take a page of your own book.

The substance of his comment is still well-intentioned though. I agree with him.

Random person writes completely unsourced negative comment about someone HN dislikes for no reason. HN cheers before launching in a pointless and already rehashed a thousands times discussion about tipping culture.

I don’t know if it’s well intentioned but it’s peak HN.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Absolutely. I hope the tip screen on tablets goes away soon.

Not even close. They are showing up anywhere a person might open their wallet. I have seen tip screens in gas stations, fast food restaurants (where you order at a kiosk), vendor booths, etc.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

Tipping is a fundamentally flawed and exploitative system

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