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The Static Site Paradox

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Post by closewith »

_heimdall wrote: post #349
closewith wrote: post #344

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> If gross sales is literally the only important metric in software engineering we've already failed. It literally is the only important metric is commercial software development. Not sure how you could delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

Context matters, you've boiled it down way too far. Gross sales is a primary metric for the business, that isn't necessarily and shouldn't be a primary goal for the engineers building the software.

Context does matter, and you're missing the forest for the trees. It's native to think there's any other metric that matters.

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Post by pixl97 »

hnfong wrote: post #303
_heimdall wrote: post #295

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A bit off topic since the thread here was related to performance, but caching in WP doesn't solve the other big problem of security. A caching layer can indeed make WP act much like a static site, though the cache still lives on your server rather than a global CDN layer. Behind that cache, though, you still have the live WP server with all the potential security risks that come with it. Caching is a nice perf gain,…

Aside from some once-in-a-blue-moon security breach events, how does better security help a salesperson sell more stuff?

>from some once-in-a-blue-moon security breach events

So once every 2 years? Blue moons are not that uncommon.

Re: The Static Site Paradox

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Post by _heimdall »

closewith wrote: post #351
_heimdall wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context matters, you've boiled it down way too far. Gross sales is a primary metric for the business, that isn't necessarily and shouldn't be a primary goal for the engineers building the software.

Context does matter, and you're missing the forest for the trees. It's native to think there's any other metric that matters.

Again you aren't saying matters for whom.

For the engineer writing code, I would absolutely expect they have different priorities and metrics than the business or accounting department.

I personally wouldn't even consider hiring a dev who makes clear that the only metric they care about is gross sales.

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Post by johnchristopher »

whartung wrote: post #202
jjmarr wrote: post #118

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The more people join a social media site the worse the conversation gets. This is already happening to HN as tech people flee Reddit. Most of the new comments on any given post are people that didn't read the linked content and complain about stuff addressed in the second paragraph. This is an evolutionary process where the commenters that get the most engagement are those that are first to respond or react. First-mo…

> Those that think deeply before responding are discouraged when a well-thought out comment is buried beneath a sea of first impressions. A specific capability oh HN, that I take advantage of often, is being able to skip thread branches. It’s not uncommon for me to go a few messages, think “Nah”, tap “root”, then “next”, and, boom, a 100 first impressions vanish in a click of disinterest. It’s a really great feature…

That feature hasn't been around for very long though (12 months ? two years ?)

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Post by closewith »

_heimdall wrote: post #353
closewith wrote: post #351

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Context does matter, and you're missing the forest for the trees. It's native to think there's any other metric that matters.

Again you aren't saying matters for whom. For the engineer writing code, I would absolutely expect they have different priorities and metrics than the business or accounting department. I personally wouldn't even consider hiring a dev who makes clear that the only metric they care about is gross sales.

> For the engineer writing code, I would absolutely expect they have different priorities and metrics than the business or accounting department.

And yet the business has that expectation.

> I personally wouldn't even consider hiring a dev who makes clear that the only metric they care about is gross sales.

Yes, you would, as you are instructed to. The only difference is that you have deluded yourself that there are interim metrics that actually matter, when they are all lossy abstractions of revenue or profit.

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Post by carlosjobim »

__mattya wrote: post #180
dingnuts wrote: post #157

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that situation has had me thinking about getting an amateur radio license again. In a disaster like what happened to Western NC, which encompasses a much greater area than just Asheville, I wouldn't want to rely on anything based on the Internet. You want something with a long wavelength and low power. But it's so inaccessible, and I'm not sure if it's for good reason or not. Connectivity was knocked out from Black M…

You can listen without a license. I was able to hear everything on a $15 handheld and it was immensely helpful. In an emergency you are allowed to transmit without a license. There were plenty of unlicensed calls going to the Mt. Mitchell repeater. All that being said, I am definitely getting my license once this is over.

> You can listen without a license

You can also talk without a license, who's going to stop you? Especially in an emergency situation.

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Post by honestAbe22 »

Aeolun wrote: post #271
zild3d wrote: post #237

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> based on bitter experience trying to convince marketing people to stop using WP and just use a static site. Sounds pretty user-hostile. You're talking about marketers who have a "Job to be done" which is to make content and get it in front of some target audience. Of course the editing experience trumps security and rendering speed. I'm confused why you're confused they always choose WP over figuring out text edito…

> You're talking about marketers who have a "Job to be done" which is to make content and get it in front of some target audience That’s not their job. Their job is to sell stuff (or make it more likely to be bought anyway). How they sell stuff is something they can determine themselves. You’d think that at some level the ‘faster websites sell more’ speech gets through to them, but the important distinction there is…

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Post by dzikimarian »

matfrana wrote: post #346
dzikimarian wrote: post #238

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They make choice, because they're the ones working with this daily. Their goal is to put content on display fast. Content varies a lot - often containing for eg. tables, which simply don't work well in markdown or images you need to host somewhere. I spent a lot of time looking and still hasn't found toolchain, that would allow interns with zero technical experience deliver edits, without getting involved in tech det…

Have a look at React Bricks. You can create content blocks in React and then the editors are autonomous with a visual editing interface.

Thanks, looks interesting. Something like this, but self-hosted would be pretty great.

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Post by foresto »

immibis wrote: post #277
foresto wrote: post #192

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More often than not, the contact forms that I encounter impose one or more hassles on the visitor: Please enable JavaScript. Please allow scripts from these off-site domains to execute on your computer. Please enter a return address hosted by an approved email provider. Please read through all the categories in this drop-down list and select the one that best fits your message. Please fill in these required fields an…

These hurdles only exist for the 0.0001% of people who deliberately hampered their own web experience in an attempt to reduce ads or tracking.

I gave eight examples (which themselves are an incomplete list). Nitpicking at two of them while ignoring the rest, and projecting fault onto people who experience them, doesn't refute the overall point.

This is worth a read:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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