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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by grugagag »

notyourwork wrote: post #344
spaceribs wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There isn't, because human trust can barely scale past 100 people, much less the entire internet. I think humans will recede into the tribes we were always built to understand and be a part of. Private group chats are far more popular and ubiquitous than we give them credit for, and I only see that accelerating in this climate.

Private chats which effectively become echo chambers further dividing an already divided society is what I foresee.

At some level there is always a private mode. Think family and friends. Do you not have any issue with everything being public? I think the parent suggests we’re not made for very large groups and I kind of agree. I can’t name 100 people I know or known in my life. Maybe I can (barely) but with great effort.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by Analemma_ »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #323

It's is more about Google search than it is about the internet. There was a period in the past when human spam was a problem that was not trivial to solve. As always, modern problems require modern solutions.

I don’t think “better spam detection technology” can help out of this even in theory. The whole point of LLMs is that, by construction, they produce content which is statistically indistinguishable from human text. Almost by definition, any statistical test to distinguish LLM text from human text could be turned around to make better LLMs.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by grugagag »

stonethrowaway wrote: post #341
lsy wrote: post #332

This was probably always the likely outcome of an internet economy that revolves around the production and monetization of "content". We started by putting advertisements on existing content, then moved to social networking and social media, which was essentially an engine for crowdsourcing the production of greater amounts of content against which to show advertisements. Because money is up for grabs, producing cont…

“Content” is the advertising term for whatever fills the space between the ads.

Content is negative space for the industry

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by JoshTriplett »

jackyinger wrote: post #335
mrinfinitiesx wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Already is. I suggest everybody else de-google as well.

Would you care to share what you do instead? For search in particular, the g-suite, etc. are not such a big deal. I'm really hoping for something other than use duck duck go / bing / etc. because AFAIK they all serve advertisement funded trash and I've yet to hear a really compelling alternative, tho I've been too lazy/busy to try Kagi.

> I'm really hoping for something other than use duck duck go / bing / etc. because AFAIK they all serve advertisement funded trash

DDG lets you turn ads off completely.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by throwup238 »

lostlogin wrote: post #334
mrinfinitiesx wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Already is. I suggest everybody else de-google as well.

Just tested on Kagi, and it’s catching a similar set of images. I massively rate Kagi, but this is way less than ideal.

I just did it on Kagi and except for the obvious stock.adobe.com ones, all of the AI generated images were from snopes and media sites repeating this story, but I have quite a few sites blocked (pinterest is definitely nuked)

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by dclowd9901 »

joshdavham wrote: post #346

I'm actually a bit excited by this problem, believe it or not. Like what solutions are we gonna come up with to solve it? Is the human side of the internet (however we create it) going to become more pure? Perhaps in discovering ways to avoid low quality AI content, we'll also find ways to escape from destructive recommender systems and monetized advertisements as well. Strange as it sounds, solving this problem coul…

Would you be as excited if there were no viable solutions?

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Post by smogcutter »

grugagag wrote: post #347
spaceribs wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There isn't, because human trust can barely scale past 100 people, much less the entire internet. I think humans will recede into the tribes we were always built to understand and be a part of. Private group chats are far more popular and ubiquitous than we give them credit for, and I only see that accelerating in this climate.

Im not sure all private chat groups are really private. Maybe some are but can’t help thinking the industry isn’t at least running AI on private chats and summarize what people are talking about.

That’s orthogonal to the point though, which is about the social value of private chats etc. Not whether they’re truly technologically “private”.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by cwillu »

grugagag wrote: post #347
spaceribs wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There isn't, because human trust can barely scale past 100 people, much less the entire internet. I think humans will recede into the tribes we were always built to understand and be a part of. Private group chats are far more popular and ubiquitous than we give them credit for, and I only see that accelerating in this climate.

Im not sure all private chat groups are really private. Maybe some are but can’t help thinking the industry isn’t at least running AI on private chats and summarize what people are talking about.

Private in the sense of admittance, not observation.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by grugagag »

joshdavham wrote: post #346

I'm actually a bit excited by this problem, believe it or not. Like what solutions are we gonna come up with to solve it? Is the human side of the internet (however we create it) going to become more pure? Perhaps in discovering ways to avoid low quality AI content, we'll also find ways to escape from destructive recommender systems and monetized advertisements as well. Strange as it sounds, solving this problem coul…

A handful will take this path. The big herd will not.
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