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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by wetmore »

lilsoso wrote: post #319
gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

Not according to Marc Andreessen & Ben Horowitz [1], Chamath Palihapitiya & David Sacks [2], possibly Zuckerberg [3], and others. And of course Elon, Thiel. Many such cases. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_sNclEgQZQ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqIZGXWUpU [3] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XgWFwVRGcf4

Condemnation from a lot of those names is a strong positive signal imo.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by verdverm »

bilekas wrote: post #22

This is wild. It seems super late in the game but okay. I'm super interested to see what will become of his chips act etc. The push he has tried to do to remove dependencies on TSMC is very forward thinking. Hopefully the next candidate takes up the momentum. Edit : Typo in TSMC

> late in the game

Most other countries have much shorter election periods. I for one would love if ours was shorter. Our politicians spend more time campaigning and raising money than they do governing

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Post by shortrounddev2 »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #318

Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

It used to be (like, early 1800s) that the VP wasn't elected directly; whoever lost the election became VP. Jefferson and Adams were political adversaries, but when Adams won the election in 1796, Jefferson became VP

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Post by mensetmanusman »

karaterobot wrote: post #327
bushbaba wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's not obvious how he could have prevented Russia from invading Ukraine, or stopped Hamas from invading Israel. Not everything comes back to the U.S. The biggest EV manufacturers in the U.S. are Tesla and Ford, as far as I can tell. No Chinese manufacturer I'm aware of has made significant inroads.

Could have easily pulled back from offering Ukraine NATO expansion possibilities.

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Post by jiveturkey »

Sajarin wrote: post #25

> It’s a miracle, folks. Donald told the truth for once. It’s the most important election of our lifetimes. And I will win it. Curiously, his tweet from just 18 hours ago seemed like he was still in the race. I wonder what changed.

Friday: "The business is doing great! We are expanding on all fronts!"

Monday: layoffs

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by toast0 »

dbcurtis wrote: post #306
siliconc0w wrote: post #271

Endorses Kamala so probably no 'mini-primary' or other challengers which is a bit of a shame. Kamala was pretty uninspiring in the primary and hasn't seemed to get a lot done as vice president while trump has gathering momentum and, maybe more importantly, money. The 'king making' party apparatus that pushed Biden despite the health issues has a lot to answer for.

The reality is that the campaign donations accumulated by the Biden/Harris ticket are only available to Harris. Anybody else is funding-challenged even more than Harris at this point. From the standpoint of campaign finance laws and the practical realities of fund-raising, it was Harris all along.

I've been seeing things that say they could form a SuperPAC with the existing donations and we know SuperPACs have more or less no real limit on spending as long as it's not coordinated with a candidate.

OTOH, candidates get a better ad rate than SuperPACs, so there's a lot of dollar effeciency lost if you have to go that way.

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Post by solidsnack9000 »

conradfr wrote: post #181
burtonator wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He got us out of Afghanistan too... this was a huge win and was very risky. Doesn't get enough credit for this one. Agreed on NATO + Ukraine too but I wish they would allow us to strike Russia directly even with NATO equipment.

Not a huge win for women in Afghanistan though.

We were not in Afghanistan to fight for Afghan women.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by tbrake »

RaftPeople wrote: post #328
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #318

Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

That's a pretty interesting thought. I read something a few years ago that said moderates/non-affiliated make up the majority of voters with only a smaller percentage on left and right tied to the parties (somewhere maybe in 15% to 20% range on each side, can't remember exactly). So it seems like a good mix of moderate could possibly win, especially when the other candidate is so polarizing.

Though unaffiliated myself, I still have very clear opinions on policies. This leads to voting exclusively for one party anyway.

It's just the label and tribalism I reject, not their stances or some desire for a mythical "middle path".

I have no idea how common this is in the "unaffiliated base" but I'd be willing to wager it's fairly common.

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