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Since it's all in proper casing I'm going to assume he wrote it with chatgpt.
Ironically built by Ilya
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Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
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#352I wonder if he thinks LLMs are an AGI dead end and he's not interested in selling a product. There's some academic papers floating around coming to the same conclusion (no links. sorry, studying for a cert exam).
That's been my assumption since the beginning of this drama last year. He seems to have one goal: real AGI. He knows that while LLMs may make something that seems like AGI there's nothing actually intelligent about it and its never going to get them there. OpenAI wants to pivot and sell sell sell because all they see is potential trillions of dollars, and it's time to make money instead of burning more millions/billi…
There is more money in AGI than LLMs.
Whatever it is, language seems key to intelligent algorithms.
Nah, he departed due to politics (failed coup) and shift from research first to profit first. Same with Karpathy I believe.
He’ll most likely go somewhere where he can get a lot of compute and go back to research first.
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#353What next? Meta?
Maybe Microsoft, for being so close with OpenAI. Maybe Apple, who really needs a tech lead for AI. Maybe Google, his previous workplace, or work for Elon, who was successful in poaching Andrej in the past. Or a startup, he can raise billions if he so wishes. Wherever he goes in a year will compete with OpenAI. Previous time lead researchers had a philosophical disagreement with Sam they left and created Anthropic, which recently caught up to OpenAI. That's the risk of letting Ilya go. And where Ilya goes, other top researchers will go too.
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#354What next? Meta?
It depends on the anti-compete clauses in his contract.
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Yes you absolutely can blame them for it. This type of shift (and a million other possible permutations) is why we invented the concept of "charters" around the same time we invented writing. The entire point of the pre-commitment device is because you (or other stakeholders) are anticipating that your thinking will get distorted over time. If you could be trusted to make such a decision in the future then you wouldn…
It’s like joining a non profit trying to protect the rain forest and then finding gold. They say screw the forest let’s mine gold now. Do the original employees then stay. Same here. Greed infected them all Weclome to San Francisco
Good comparison.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#359Why does everyone here think that the guy who quit/lost his job at OpenAI because he didn't agree with their corporate shift and departure from the original non-profit vision is going to be lining up for another big corporate job building closed for-profit AI?
>the guy who quit/lost his job at OpenAI because he didn't agree with their corporate shift and departure from the original non-profit vision There is no evidence of this being true. He is one of the biggest proponents of keeping AI closed-source, by the way.
That's a naive way of thinking. Keeping it closed source would only make it available to the highest bidder on the black market.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#360His phone must be ringing non-stop from all the VCs.