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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by Xiol32 »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #327

I’m a huge user of GPT4 and Opus in my work but I’m a huge user of GPT4-Turbo voice in my personal life. I use it on my commutes to learn all sorts of stuff. I’ve never understood the details of cameras and the relationship between shutter speed and aperture and iso in a modern dslr which given the aurora was important. We talked through and I got to an understanding in a way having read manuals and textbooks didn’t…

Have you actually verified anything you've learned from it, or are you just taking everything it says as gospel?

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by abhpro »

hehdhdjehehegwv wrote: post #170
bearjaws wrote: post #117

OAI just made an embarrassment of Google's fake demo earlier this year. Given how this was recorded, I am pretty certain it's authentic.

This feature has been in iOS for a while now, just really slow and without some of the new vision aspects. This seems like a version 2 for me.

No it's not the same thing, the link for this submission even explains that. Anyone who comments should at least give the submission a cursory read.

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Post by WhitneyLand »

cs702 wrote: post #115

The usual critics will quickly point out that LLMs like GPT-4o still have a lot of failure modes and suffer from issues that remain unresolved. They will point out that we're reaping diminishing returns from Transformers. They will question the absence of a "GPT-5" model. And so on -- blah, blah, blah, stochastic parrots, blah, blah, blah. Ignore the critics. Watch the demos. Play with it. This stuff feels magical .…

How much of this could be implemented using the API?

There’s so much helpful niche functionality that can be added to custom clients.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by EternalFury »

Pretty responsible progress management by OpenAI. Kicking off another training wave is easy, if you can afford the electricity, but without new, non-AI tainted datasets or new methods, what’s the point? So, in the meantime, make magic with the tool you already have, without freaking out the politicians or the public. Wise approach.

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Post by glenstein »

caseyy wrote: post #319

Few people are talking about it but... what do you think about the very over-the-top enthusiasm? To me, it sounds like TikTok TTS, it's a bit uncomfortable to listen to. I've been working with TTS models and they can produce much more natural sounding language, so it is clearly a stylistic choice. So what do you think?

I like for that degree of expressiveness to be available as an option, although it would be really irritating if I was trying to use it to learn some sort of academic coursework or something.

But if it's one in a range of possible stylistic flourishes and personalities, I think it's a plus.

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Post by glenstein »

joshstrange wrote: post #107

Looking forward to trying this via ChatGPT. As always OpenAI says "now available" but refreshing or logging in/out of ChatGPT (web and mobile) don't cause GPT-4o to show up. I don't know why I find this so frustrating. Probably because they don't say "rolling out" they say things like "try it now" but I can't even though I'm a paying customer. Oh well...

I think it's a legitimate point. For my personal use case, what are the most helpful things about these HN threads is comparing with others to see how soon I can expect it to be available for me. Like you, I currently don't have access, but I understand that it's supposed to become increasingly available throughout the day.

That is the text-based version. The full multimodal version I understand to be rolling out in the coming weeks.

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Post by avereveard »

msoad wrote: post #58

They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…

I tested a few use cases in the chat, and it's not particularly more intelligent but they seem to have solved laziness. I had to categorize my expenses to do some budgeting for the family, and in gpt 4 I had to go ten in ten, confirm the suggested category, download the file, took two days as I was constantly hitting the limit. gpt4o did most of the grunth work, then commincated anomalies in bulk, asked for suggestion for these, and provided a downloadable link in two answers, calling the code interpreter mulitple times, and working toward the goal on it's own.

and the prompt wasn't a monstrosity, and it wasn't even that good, it was just one line "I need help to categorize these expenses" and off it went. hope it won't get enshittified like turbo, because this finally feels as great as 3.5 was for goal seeking.

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Post by OOPMan »

cs702 wrote: post #115

The usual critics will quickly point out that LLMs like GPT-4o still have a lot of failure modes and suffer from issues that remain unresolved. They will point out that we're reaping diminishing returns from Transformers. They will question the absence of a "GPT-5" model. And so on -- blah, blah, blah, stochastic parrots, blah, blah, blah. Ignore the critics. Watch the demos. Play with it. This stuff feels magical .…

I really don't think Sam needs more encouragement, thanks.

Also, if this is your definition of magic then...yeah...

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by mindcandy »

Ohhhhhhhh, boy... Listening to all that emotional vocal inflection and feedback... There are going to be at least 10 million lonely guys with new AI girlfriends. "She's not real. But, she interested in everything I say and excited about everything I care about" is enough of a sales pitch for a lot of people.
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