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Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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How's America though?

Still democratic and #1/#2 in the world, by most measures. Was there something specific you were looking for?

We pay a european level of taxes (and rising) in order to receive a "safety net" thinner than Cuba, mostly so we can drop bombs on brown people and shadowy "communists"/"terrorists"/"freedom haters"/"yellow cake enjoyers"/"nazis that arent Ukrainian". What's the metric for that?

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Ah then - so in your mind it's only Elon who's the hypocrite?

What specifically do you think Elon has said which is hypocritical?

Are you not following our conversation?

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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It's impressive how much hardware they've been able to develop. Their "Fury", which they acquired from Blue Force, is "a single engine business jet with no cabin." It was originally intended as a target drone, something for fighter pilots to practice against. Anduril repurposed it as an autonomous weapons system. They do mean autonomous. Their slogan is "Autonomy for Every Mission". We're seeing the future of warfare…

I don't think we as laypeople should even attempt to draw conclusions from Ukrainian battlefields ourselves, seeing how strong the survivorship bias is. Take FPV drones. In [1] Michael Kofman estimates (based on talking to a number of frontline units) that on average Or TB2s. Remember how they were the future of warfare after their success in Nagorno-Karabakh and the first few weeks in Ukraine? Few months later TB2s…

A 10% success chance seems incredibly effective. I would have estimated the chances quite a bit lower. Tanks are million dollar devices, which are expensive to replace and require significant training. If they can be effectively attacked by infantry without putting themselves in significant danger, that drastically lowers the value of a tank.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Reading the comments here is giving me the disturbing realization that the war in Ukraine is extremely valuable to the US because the US gets to collect immense amounts of data to inform perspectives on how modern technology is revolutionizing warfare with minimal risk to American troops. And that's with technology in the hands of an extremely motivated ally against one of our top rivals. This opportunity doesn't com…

I have been watching the warfare via several Telegram channels and observe how important drone warfare now is. I watched 5 $10M Abrams tanks destroyed by $500 FPV drones. Close combat on troops is also conducted with drones with remarkable precision. We don't know how much of the targeting and execution by Russia is automated verses manual, but many experts in this field agree that Russia's technical capability is at…

I thought Russia's hypersonic missiles were a failure, with the Ukrainians shooting them down with 30 year old Patriot missiles? There were a lot of articles about it last year, here's one:

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2023/09/what-ukraines-...

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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As original names they're under copyright in the US and UK, and in the UK the estate also retains right of publicity.

Just realized that the last copyright for LOTR will end in 2050

It's a patchwork. In some countries the Hobbit is already in the public domain; in others it will take another decade.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Reading the comments here is giving me the disturbing realization that the war in Ukraine is extremely valuable to the US because the US gets to collect immense amounts of data to inform perspectives on how modern technology is revolutionizing warfare with minimal risk to American troops. And that's with technology in the hands of an extremely motivated ally against one of our top rivals. This opportunity doesn't com…

It was always going to be a terrible tragedy with Ukraine. Vlad committed something much worse than a crime, he committed a mistake (to paraphrase Talleyrand). NATO+ countries aren't fighting him, they are using Ukraine as a proxy, while Vlad is fighting with his own army. NATO has been waiting nearly 80 years to attack Russia directly. They very motivated to make sure that Vlad continues making errors. As such, the…

> And, unfortunately, the worse for Ukraine

In what way would having the whole of Ukraine annexed like Crimea be better for Ukraine?

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Libertarians aren't anarchists. They don't generally believe that there should be no government (although you can find people who believe just about anything). I don't think there's anything hypocritical about libertarians taking government contracts for defense. If they were taking government contracts or jobs around regulating markets or building public housing, then that would be closer to hypocritical, but I'm no…

Maybe. But they almost certainly don't just take this work. They advocate for more work. They lobby for more funds. I'm not a libertarian, so I don't know the details, but I believe advocated for larger government must be contrary to their beliefs, no?

Maybe, but not necessarily. It really depends on what they actually believe (or say they believe) specifically. If their belief is "societies work better when governments don't interfere with markets", then their beliefs say nothing about what individual people should do in situations where a government does interfere with markets. They may also believe that if you can't fix something, taking advantage of it is justified, in which case they are not being hypocritical. That's not to say you can't regard such a position as unethical. However, I think many if not most people use systems they are in favor of dismantling. For example, people who believe housing is a human right don't typically donate their houses when they move, they sell them on the open market.

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In your view, does any company that does business with government organizations count as sucking on the government teat?

Pretty much, yes. Personally I don't mind the idea of sucking on the government teat - seems pretty reasonable. But when you're a libertarian doing it - I just have to laugh. Ditto Tesla. It's not a coincidence that all these guys are suffering the same hypocrisy.

You can argue for changes while still recognizing that the current rules make it more optimal to do the things you argue against. There is no contradiction.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Reading the comments here is giving me the disturbing realization that the war in Ukraine is extremely valuable to the US because the US gets to collect immense amounts of data to inform perspectives on how modern technology is revolutionizing warfare with minimal risk to American troops. And that's with technology in the hands of an extremely motivated ally against one of our top rivals. This opportunity doesn't com…

I have an impression that no modern technology is tested there but rather supplied with ready to be decommissioned 50 year old antics.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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I like Anduril, but it seems that their stuff is overcomplicated and expensive compared to what we see on the battlefield in Ukraine where hundreds of drones are downed daily. An unmanned fighter jet is a whole different ball game for them.

AFAIK Anduril capabilities go quite a bit further. From their marketing materials I understand that devices are networked sensor data is shared. All drones sees what any given drone sees and so do soldiers on the ground and the commanders. IMO this can be a massive advantage over the slow, fairly dumb drones in use in Ukraine. That said, I agree, we also need lots of cheap drones.

>From their marketing materials I understand that devices are networked sensor data is shared.

This hasn't been innovative in a military context since at least Desert Storm.

Actually a shared battlespace run by computers managing contacts and sharing the data with tens of platforms including sending specific intercept data to specific in air interceptors and relaying data those interceptors get back to the rest of the fleet and managing tasking for tens of different surface combatants to intelligently and efficiently task hundreds of incoming threats was rolled out to American fleets in the 1960s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Tactical_Data_System

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