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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by com2kid »

RIMR wrote: post #207
Zancarius wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you're completely alone, but you're probably statistically insignificant (don't worry, I'm right there with you). Like you, I can't stand the music I grew up with all that much (maybe a few songs here and there), but I went through the trance/electronic fixation in the 2000s. Now it's almost anything that I enjoy, which probably doesn't say much, but I'm presently listening to some chillstep and was lis…

I actually wonder if staying receptive to new music into or past middle age is enhanced by autism. I am a male on the spectrum, in my late 30's, and absolutely nothing about this article rings true to me. I generally operate on a 5 year cycle where I completely reinvent my musical interests, stop enjoying lots of tracks that I used to love (I hate just about eveything I loved at 14), and hang onto a handful of tracks…

Brains have to have repeated exposure to a stimulus before they find it pleasurable. This is why you may need to try a new food a few times before you develop a liking for it, and the same goes for new music genres.

If you purposefully go out and listen to new music, you'll quickly get accustom to the sounds of new genres. On the other hand, people who are not in the habit of trying new things never train their brain to enjoy new types of music.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by citizenpaul »

I deleted/tossed my entire music collection, subscriptions/accounts about two years ago. I decided it was kind of keeping me in a mental rut and reinforcing old patterns rather than supporting new ones im modifying my life with.

I think it helps. Kinda like being 16 again.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by mellosouls »

dotnet00 wrote: post #283
Thegn wrote: post #224

One problem I've run into with the music services is with older styles. For example, I'm specifically into black musicians from the 1930s-1950s who played swing style music. I have yet to find a service that actually will play more than 2-3 songs in that style before deciding that what I really want to hear is rat pack or swing by white musicians. No matter how much I thumbs down it, I get Glenn Miller/Frank Sinatra/…

The other replies are interpreting this as the algorithm failing, but I have interpreted these sorts of things as intentional design choices, wherein they want the recommender to keep trying to diversify your interests so it's harder for you to just quit the service and move to another one which might not have the same variety (or where you'd have to try to "teach" the recommender again). They've determined that the…

trying to diversify your interests

In this instance - and others in my experience listening to the recommendations on this and similar services - "diversify" is used when "dilute" would be more appropriate.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by jdougan »

downWidOutaFite wrote: post #125
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #106

I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

Im much the same, but today I'm constantly in the search for anything new, anything in any genre that breaks the well-worn formulae and surprises me, but it's honestly hard to find, everything is derivative.

I want a station that plays everything that was ever in the rock top 100 from around 1950 to around 2010. There has to be all kinds of great stuff that never gets played on "oldies" stations. Probably a bunch of duds too, but if they made it as far as the top 100, there can't be that relatively many.

You could do this with almost any genre, I suspect.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by mellosouls »

longdog wrote: post #341
mellosouls wrote: post #332

The conclusions of this study - that musical open-mindedness drops off in the late twenties - is consistent with the fact that (pop) music creators also peak in their twenties, with a rapid decline into creative insignificance afterwards. There's a lot of comforting analysis here on social and cultural development reasons why that might be, but the likely ugly truth is the same faced by creatives in some other areas…

What are those other areas which display age-based creative decline? Other creative fields I can think of off the top of my head - scientific research, animation, fiction writing, architecture - are overwhelmingly dominated by older people. Even in pop music, I'd argue that artists are doing very little of the actual heavy lifting compared to the producers and the writers. Pop singers have a much shorter shelf life t…

Eg. Maths, physics, poetry. All dominated by the young, as pop music.

Note that I'm talking about creative brilliance - ie the outlier contributors that define or excel in the forms - not workmanlike producers of commercial trustworthiness as in your example (though I would assume that generally the same trend holds).

I said "some" because I'm aware that some fields (eg literature) do not follow the clear example in those.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by tpurves »

I am 45+ and constantly and exclusively seek out new music, rarely listening to anything more than a year old. However... I think this may have as much to do with a life-long novelty seeking manifestation of ADHD than anything entirely neurotypical. But I'm okay with that!

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by shiroiushi »

hi-v-rocknroll wrote: post #243

Whatever. I find new stuff all of the time. Anything but show tunes, most country, and recent pop music is fair game. Tidal has good shit whereas Spotify will randomly reach into your account to delete playlists or remove content without warning. Also, the Spotify app no longer controls volume across devices uniformly, doesn't work at all on Apple TV, and is generally getting buggier and crappier with popups and movi…

>is generally getting buggier and crappier with popups and moving things around for no reason.

When you have teams of developers employed, you have to keep them busy doing stuff to justify their existence.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by SllX »

pxc wrote: post #303

I expect it'll never happen to me. My dad was still actively seeking out new music when I was a kid, streaming college radio via the Internet before Pandora, Last.fm, or Spotify were things. He's in his 60s today and he still listens to new music (in a range of genres) all the time. If novelty in music is actually important to you, this won't happen to you.

I had the realization a few weeks ago that I no longer listen to very much from before 2016. I didn’t pay attention to how it happened, but less than 20% of what I have actively listened to in the past 3 years going by all these recap playlists is from before 2016 and I keep adding new music every year. Half of the music from before that cutoff point is basically music that was new to me in the last few years even though it’s older.

I couldn’t imagine thinking that would ever happen 15-20 years ago. I’ve also realized that I’m not interested in trying to change that at all, because I’m now of the opinion that so far music has gotten better every single decade I’ve been alive; and the 2020s are off to a great start on that front.

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