This entire thing is newspeak. Every headline means the opposite. For example, "A More Open App Ecosystem" means a more closed application ecosystem. By switching to a proprietary OS and setting up a walled garden where they have to approve all software you can run. This is part of the coming war on general computation.
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#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number of employees who can see failure coming does not matter when they are organized by hierarchy and coerced to work toward failure under threat of losing their wage.
Plenty of people inside Google also thought that splitting(/replacing) Hangouts into Allo and Duo was monumentally stupid.
That was the thing that turned me off Google permanently. I deleted my G account and have never looked back.
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#353It's going to be interesting if Google/Samsung will win out or Meta/etc.
I wonder if every category has a "winner". When compatibility was a determinant, you had winners (Microsoft, obv.). I'm not sure winner-takes-all applies any longer.
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a personal computer at home was a game-changer, though. "The Metaverse" has been around for a couple years now, and yet consumer VR (which has been around for eight years now) is still just a "gimmick", rather than a must-have. The IBM Personal Computer released in 1981. By 1989... yeah. iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world.
Before the iPhone we had palm pilots, blackberries, etc. I prefer to think of it as consumer VR simply hasn't had its iPhone moment yet
Consumer VR hasn't had it's Blackberry moment yet!
Coincidentally, someone I interacted with mentioned "I never thought I'd get rid of my Blackberry" in passing, which reminded me of the term once popular term "Crackberry".
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#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
From personal experience as far back as the 80's (and from my understanding going back before that as well), OS has never meant kernel. An Operating System is the collection of software that allows you to operate a computer, so that means kernel, program loader, simple text editor, simple disk management, etc. As computer users became more savvy, and hardware became more powerful, more and more functionality was incl…
> From personal experience as far back as the 80's (and from my understanding going back before that as well), OS has never meant kernel. I definitely heard it used to literally mean only the kernel. Circa 20 years ago and earlier. For example, if we look at "Operating system" on Wikipedia from 2006: > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operating_system&... > Most current usage of the term "operating system"…
> I definitely heard it used to literally mean only the kernel. Circa 20 years ago and earlier.
You're correct that people have been conflating the kernel and the operating system as the same thing for a long time, but it's not technically correct to call "Linux", for example, an operating system. Stallman would appreciate that people stop doing that ;)
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#356This is awesome, I'm waiting for a VR manufacturer to add an HDMI input. Then I could use it as a monitor without jumping through a bunch of hoops.
The original Vive has HDMI input.
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What the hell is "cloud computing"? What is "big data"? What is the "Internet of Things" or "SaaS" or "SEO"? For that matter what is "agile development"? Just use words to describe technology? Every time I want to say "cloud computing" do I have to say "a service where you use the internet to access software, storage, and processing power that's run on a bunch of server located far away in data center that are owned…
In business you would traditionally call that sort of arrangement "outsourcing". The Internet of Things is okay -- it could have been worse, The Omninet or something.
"outsourcing" is a broad term. Building your widgets in China is also outsourcing.
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> So there’s no kind of existential danger to Quest here, but it remains to be seen if the hardware licensees can bring anything relevant to the table either. Why would I, as a potential hardware maker, wish to compete in a market where the existing main producer is a mega wealthy entity that is already dumping product below cost and is capable of doing so indefinitely?
The low end of the market is taken - but (from an outsider perspective) the high end appears free. The people who want to buy a Honda aren't the same people who want to buy an Acura, even though it's (essentially) the same parts. Let's say that, tomorrow, Gucci or Dolce and Gabanna (or however you spell that) want to make a VR headset (why? who knows?). They don't have the tech acumen to compete with Facebook on expe…
Don’t agree with this take. I’m sure Meta would be fine with other vendors taking over the low-end, if that meant there was a vibrant platform they controlled (ie the OS). They will lead with flagship models to push the boundaries of what the OS/tech can do.
Why would they want to sell at/below cost forever? The reason they do this now is to make the platform viable.
The only reason they are focusing on cheaper devices now is to build the platform and try to get more users, to in turn get more data on what the killer usecases will be.
Think of this as a play like Android. Google doesn’t care what goes on in the commodified end of the spectrum, as long as there is one. Google does ship flagship phones (in competition with eg Samsung) and that is fine.
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How does any company burn $36 billion on a headset they got handed a prototype for? At a reasonable $100k/yr and 50% overhead, that's 240,000 years of labor. ~5000 human lifetimes. At a .gov labor rate of 2080 hrs/yr, that's 500,000,000 hrs of work wasted? For mediocre "not a product rendering" that looks like 90's Second Life? I'm not usually the graphic resolution crowd, yet that was rather underwhelming. Could'a j…
100k/yr is not reasonable for Bay Area, let alone top talent. There are people working on it making $1M/yr+. Junior developers straight out of college are making more at Meta. You're also assuming everything went to just engineering payroll, which is obviously not true.
The numbers aren't all that much more palatable at 24,000 man-years, assuming $1M average TC.
That's equivalent to the amount of labor it took to build some of the minor Egyptian pyramids.
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Why can't you play BeatSaber without mods?
because they want to use songs they didn't pay for
There are lots songs for which it is fully legal to listen to without paying for. Many people release songs for people to listen to for free!
This is especially true within the rhythm game community, for which many fans simply like to make rhythm songs and for people to play them.
That is absolutely a valid usecase that should be allowed.