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Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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They believed in good faith that Apple's terms were illegal. There is nothing wrong with breaking an illegal contract. Yes, they lost in court but it wasn't a foregone conclusion. Apple's continuing retaliation is petty and likely to get them in trouble.

But Apple's terms and contract weren't illegal.

Actually they were, partially

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Getting pretty huge clown face painting meme vibes.

It was mind-blowing to me that in previous threads, Apple fanatics were defending Apple, saying that Epic had broken the developer agreement. It hadn't. Schiller clearly stated that he banned Epic because he didn't believe Sweeney when Sweeney literally said that he would abide by the agreement. I don't see this behavior with any other company.

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One of the worst gaming user experiences on Windows is how every publisher wants their own store. And depending on where you get a game, it may or may not have certain features. And if you get into modding, sometimes one version of the game just won't work with some mods. I understand everyone feels good about increased competition with Apple—and hopefully it turns out well for users—but iOS is hurtling toward the sa…

If Google or Mozilla release real versions of their browsers for iOS/iPadOS and offer long support for them, then I see it as a win. I've seen so many usable iPads turn into e-waste because Safari is out of date and can't be updated.

iOS Safari is the only thing that prevents a Chromium/Blink hegemony. A popular Chrome on iOS would be a return to the IE6 days (Firefox has such a minuscule market share, no one even notices it)

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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“Ummmmmmmm akshully you’re not forced to use duopoly A’s marketplace, you can go to B as well”

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Europe is the home of ARM, the core technology licensed in Apple silicon for what, 15 years now? STMicroelectronics too, who is just as important in the production of the iPhone as Texas Instruments.

More logically, the United States is reluctant to regulate phone shipments because Apple and Google constitute the strongest surveillance network ever exported internationally. Europe stands to lose nothing if Epic or Spotify go bankrupt, the 'muh protectionism' argument only makes sense from the perspective of companies that actually matter. So obviously there has to be something bigger at play, the Commission wouldn't be listening to scoundrels and nobodies unless they said something that made sense.

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It's unlikely that "regulators" had anything to do with it, given the quick resolution. I'd be more inclined to think that Epic went back to Apple hat-in-hand and begged to be let back in, probably promising to muzzle Sweeney.

Sure, Apple takes a strong decision which breaks a just-enforced law, and two days later they back down because they had a nice talk with Epic. /s The EU told Apple that breaking the law would have dire consequences. That's the only reason Apple backed down. Stop spreading Apple propaganda.

It's good scrutiny to have, but I'm surprised that there are now at leat 3 users here that really believe that Apple reversed course in 3 days out of the goodness of their hearts. I can't even get a response from many customer services in 3 days. No company thst big turns on a dime without extreme arm twisting.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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you have to give it to the guy - he continued coding even after loosing in the court and having to read tons of legal papers -

Sept 10, 2021: Lost a court case, climbed a mountain, read hundreds of pages of legal papers, wrote some code. Just as determined as ever to fight on until there is genuine developer and consumer freedom in software, and fair competition in each mobile platform software component.

https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1436583527290654720?s=20

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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How is this EU policy frivolous? Clearly there is 1) anti-competitive behaviour and 2) actual harms from Apple's actions. On top of that, their record for Apple:EU battles is what? N:0?

Anti competitive behavior? Over an App Store that’s only important because of the success of their phones. Phones that people don’t need to buy because there are alternatives? Miss me with actual harms being done. Edit: Of course your anti-Apple bias shows and you downvote anything going against the circle jerk

> Miss me with actual harms being done.

I'm pretty sure a middle-schooler could understand the EU Commission's reasoning here: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/api/image/conten...

You might disagree, but this is an Apple-specific behavior that does demonstrable harm to the market and consumers. Apple was flippant towards Dutch regulators when they were being investigated over this, and that negligence earned them scrutiny on a much larger stage. The further Apple doubles-down, the more legislative artillery the EU will dedicate to stopping them; this reversal on Epic's account is evidence that Apple doesn't see light at the end of their tunnel, they're not building a defensible case.

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Breton posted on X that his team would look into this case with high priority yesterday. Apple noticed they are about to get a beating and decided to handle this case proactively before they get fined and regulated even stronger

Yep I'm aware of the tweet.

He now confirmed contact

"I take note with satisfaction that following our contacts Apple decided to backtrack its decision on Epic exclusion."

From Day 2, #DMA is already showing very concrete results!

https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1766167580497117464

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If Google or Mozilla release real versions of their browsers for iOS/iPadOS and offer long support for them, then I see it as a win. I've seen so many usable iPads turn into e-waste because Safari is out of date and can't be updated.

iOS Safari is the only thing that prevents a Chromium/Blink hegemony. A popular Chrome on iOS would be a return to the IE6 days (Firefox has such a minuscule market share, no one even notices it)

I don't want to give one company a monopoly just to prevent a potential monopoly. I want better anti-trust to handle both and all monopolies. And handling the existing and real monopoly is how that starts.
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