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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by roflyear »

mlrtime wrote: post #294
uxp8u61q wrote: post #219

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> it’s totally fine to show a preference for new vehicles If you don't care about your environmental impact. I'm getting tired of these talking points where you shouldn't assume any kind of responsibility for your "preferences".

Could you please sell everything you have, give it to a charity and live in the woods? I'm getting tired of every discussion diverging into a 'environmental impact' judgment message from anonymous.

This is the same argument as "don't complain, someone has it worse" and it's a flawed one.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by rightbyte »

arpinum wrote: post #320
uxp8u61q wrote: post #218

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How is this not an indication of quality? They're not inspecting cars for kicks and giggles, they're inspecting them to make sure you're not hurtling a death device that will kill you and fellow drivers on the autobahn.

Because faults can include items such as the first aid kit expired, tyre inflator expired, headlights out of alignment, a crack in the windshield wiper, worn tyres, worn brakes, or low washer fluid. These are not initial build quality issues.

Worn tyres is ofent an alignment issue. Worn brakes is ofent rust problems.

But ye it is an indirect measurement.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by myko »

sschueller wrote: post #56
silisili wrote: post #51

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My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

Infotainment is not a cars purpose but an addition. If you need to play video games and watch Netflix then you should not be driving.

I'm not a fan of my Tesla and can't wait to replace it but the video games/Netflix are for when you're charging, you can't watch Netflix while driving on the infotainment

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by roflyear »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #229
uxp8u61q wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it’s totally fine to show a preference for new vehicles If you don't care about your environmental impact. I'm getting tired of these talking points where you shouldn't assume any kind of responsibility for your "preferences".

> If you don't care about your environmental impact My point is the environmental effect is de minimis . Possibly positive. The old car is still being driven, just by someone else. Given it’s an EV, it’s likely—on the margin—pushing an ICE vehicle off the road.

This is logically sound when phrased like this but it is not the reality. Studies show you should drive a car into the ground to achieve maximum environmental benefit (or minimum impact is more accurate)

This is realized when you look at vast junkyards of unused cars in the US.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by Astronaut3315 »

pqwEfkvjs wrote: post #41

Tesla owners are probably so rich they can just buy another when the car breaks down. Or why would anyone buy a Tesla in the first place if they were not angry at money.

Just a few weeks ago, you could buy a brand new Model 3 in the US for ~$30k with incentives. I don’t consider that to be particularly expensive for a new vehicle.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by infecto »

janoc wrote: post #262
elif wrote: post #249

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Weird. Is your wife's phone nearby by chance? The only time this happens to me it's because we are both walking to the car together and her phone unlocks it before mine does.

And why would that feature rely on a phone in the first place instead of letting the driver change the profile when getting behind the wheel? Or e.g. use a fingerprint sensor or interior camera (which some of the Teslas do have)? That sounds like some software guy somewhere didn't realize that those seats in the car aren't only for carrying air but that actual people or, gosh, occasional other drivers ride in them to…

But it does let you select? You wrote so many words but have no experience yourself.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by myko »

prmoustache wrote: post #71
silisili wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

Aren't everybody using android auto (or its Apple equivalent) these days anyway? The builtin infotainment system is usually just a second thought that exist just to showcase something in the showroom and setup android auto at first use.

Tesla isn't. Which is really frustrating because the voice control in the Tesla does not work reliably (maybe functions 20% of the time, and that's _if_ the button on the steering wheel to start it works - usually that fails to register even before I attempt to speak to the car)

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Post by hef19898 »

pard68 wrote: post #338
hef19898 wrote: post #308

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And some surface rust doesn't fail inspection. For that we clearly are in not-working-properly-and-potentially-a-safety-hazard territory.

Yes, I tend to agree, it sounds fishy, but I don't speak Germany but from the google translate of the TUV site and then some accounts of people here, it sounds like they do fail for normal surface rust. One or two people mentioned anecdotes that the inspectors have told them to go drive around and brake heavily before coming back.

Yes, you do that drive around to remove surface rust and allow the inspector to peoperly inspect the brakes. This drive around is not recorded as a failed inspection, if the brakes fail after, then it is recorded.

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Post by badpun »

light_hue_1 wrote: post #269
kossTKR wrote: post #261

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To me teslas are still annoying and dangerous because of a bunch of small things last time i rented one, like buying a great computer, but the screen colours are inverted: 1) No buttons but shit quality touch "areas in places you have to guess" on steering wheel, is straight up dangerous, and incredibly annoying because you can't "get a feel" for anything you have to do, ie. turn lights, wipers etc. 2) No other knobs…

This is like reading a review of an iphone from an older dedicated blackberry user. It can take a bit to get used to advances in technology. The Tesla UI is the best car UI I've ever used. By far. I would never want to go back. 1. There's zero guessing. The steering wheel touch zones are very nicely marked by bumps. I have never put my finger in the wrong spot. 2. You can configure the steering wheel buttons to do so…

> 3. Never in my life have I just stared at the speedometer. Why are you staring at it so much? Is something wrong?

Without checking speedometer often, how do you know if you're not going above the speed limit?

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by hef19898 »

flutas wrote: post #292
m463 wrote: post #87

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my UI doesn't have that. I've changed my tires myself and there was nowhere to enter the data. Do you mean the app or in car? If a non-tesla person changes my tires, they haven't done anything. I don't take my car to tesla for tires anymore. They charge you for everything , and offer no warranty. (also, my tires cannot be rotated)

From the manual: > To see the miles driven since your last tire rotation or replacement, touch Controls > Service and look under Last Tire Service. After the tires on Model 3 are rotated, replaced, or swapped, update your vehicle's tire configuration by touching Reset, or by touching Wheel & Tire > Tires from the same screen. This allows your vehicle to reset the learned tire settings and improve your driving experie…

Translation: Teslas, not sure which model you looked up, have such bad suspension and stearing that tires, ubder regular use, worn down inconsistently. Which shouldn't be an issue in modern cars running proper tires and tire pressure.
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