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Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Post by metadat »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #346
sharkweek wrote: post #213

My 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner is old enough to drink and outside of routine maintenance requires almost no thought. "It's time to get a new car" given that car safety has drastically improved and I have two younger kids in that thing a few times a week but I'm honestly having a really hard time giving it up, something so reliable and plainly functional. New cars with all their computers and smart technology only look lik…

FWIW, the computers don’t tend to break. The things that do break are essentially the same as they were 20 years ago. The bells and whistles are mostly for creatures comfort. The mechanical components haven’t changed much. The only thing that I couldn’t fix on my own in my 2020 vs my 2006 was re-alignment of lane keep system after replacing the windshield.

The littany of sensors begin to go bad after 6-7 years in many newer cars.

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Post by emodendroket »

mkii wrote: post #225
hintymad wrote: post #181

Toyota is amazing for making reliable cars but writing truly shitty code. IIRC, a lawsuit a few years ago about Toyota's faulty brake system revealed that Toyota engineers cramped tens of thousands of lines in a single file and the lines freely update hundreds of global variables. It's also interesting that Japanese companies follow ISO this and CMM that yet they develop slowly and produce shitty software services ev…

Is it truly mysterious though? I find it interesting whenever HN has a strong fascination with all things related to "Japanese-ness". For example, there have been links to wikipedia pages of some Japanese term, and it will make front page with comments. I can't think of any other nation that has this kind of cultural representation on here. And yet, the myth of Japanese "uniqueness" is largely the product of Japanese…

I hear you. Having studied Japanese seriously it takes a lot of the magic out of jargon that’s just common Japanese nouns. But it is still alien to most of our ways of working (though I think that has more to do with nonprogrammers programming than anything about the Yamatodamashii).

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Post by baby »

mkii wrote: post #290
renewiltord wrote: post #287

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Haha, that's a funny meme. But the main picture sort of is different, no? In Tokyo, you'd wander through the streets and see all sorts of interesting things in that melange of billboards: model train stores, little book stores, an indoor hydroponics farm, a teppanyaki place. I've got nothing against truck stop off-ramps looking like they do (they provide great utility on road trips) but it's qualitatively different a…

It's kind of the same to me. There's videos on YouTube of Japanese tourist or exchange students in America, gawking and having fun over the most mundane American things.

As a non-American the skyscrapers in NYC as well as the architecture in LV were mind blowing to me. I guess the US also has good nature.

But Japan is a condensed WTF/sqm if you ever visit you will see that it’s truly a special country.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Post by golergka »

mkii wrote: post #225
hintymad wrote: post #181

Toyota is amazing for making reliable cars but writing truly shitty code. IIRC, a lawsuit a few years ago about Toyota's faulty brake system revealed that Toyota engineers cramped tens of thousands of lines in a single file and the lines freely update hundreds of global variables. It's also interesting that Japanese companies follow ISO this and CMM that yet they develop slowly and produce shitty software services ev…

Is it truly mysterious though? I find it interesting whenever HN has a strong fascination with all things related to "Japanese-ness". For example, there have been links to wikipedia pages of some Japanese term, and it will make front page with comments. I can't think of any other nation that has this kind of cultural representation on here. And yet, the myth of Japanese "uniqueness" is largely the product of Japanese…

> the myth of Japanese "uniqueness" is largely the product of Japanese national propaganda, serving many useful purposes for the state

Is the Consumer Reports that we're commenting on also Japanese propaganda?

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Post by shrubble »

bluemax wrote: post #154
Tactical45 wrote: post #53

I wonder if hybrid being more reliable than gasoline cars is simply a function of most of those being Toyota, versus any effect stemming from the car being Hybrid.

My Toyota hybrid reliably does not start after 4 weeks not driving. The 12 volt (1 year old) battery is drained too much after such a period of inactivity. I was not expecting this from Toyota, pretty disappointing.

I had something like this happen on my non-hybrid vehicle. The battery was replaced under warranty, for free since it was less than 18 months old.

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Post by emodendroket »

soneca wrote: post #342
mkii wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it truly mysterious though? I find it interesting whenever HN has a strong fascination with all things related to "Japanese-ness". For example, there have been links to wikipedia pages of some Japanese term, and it will make front page with comments. I can't think of any other nation that has this kind of cultural representation on here. And yet, the myth of Japanese "uniqueness" is largely the product of Japanese…

I never met a Brazilian who went to Japan and didn’t spontaneously say that things there are so different. I don’t think it’s solely propaganda (if any at all).

They’d probably have the same reaction to America or much of Europe considering you’re talking about two countries with quite different levels of development and standards of living.

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Post by deeesstoronto »

talldatethrow wrote: post #254
ethbr1 wrote: post #235

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I drove a Tacoma that started at 125k miles with a leaking cylinder and a torn CV joint boot. Kept waiting for something to stop working and need fixing... 70k+ miles later, I was still driving and waiting.

If you had a torn cv boot, it was a 4x4. The cv doesn't actually transmit any power when you're in 2 wheel drive mode. So unless you did many miles in 4x4 after the torn cv boot, you wouldn't really ever experience a problem with it. That's very different than a FWD car with a torn boot.

A CV boot keeps dirt from getting into the CV joint and keeps grease from flying out. Dirt that gets in causes increased wear.

Unless the boot is majorly damaged, very limited dirt gets in, most of the grease stays in, and lifetime of the joint isn't severely impacted.

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Post by actionfromafar »

bmitc wrote: post #339
resolutebat wrote: post #316

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For handwritten resumes, the pain is kind of the point: handwriting hundreds of copies, which must be perfect down to the last stroke, is how new grads demonstrate their diligence and commitment to future employers. (It's still an idiotic relic though.)

This speaks to the idea that a lot of Japanese culture, especially business culture, is performative.

Hardly unique, but I think it’s easy to be blind to one’s own cultural bias.
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