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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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If it’s not superintelligent now, it will be within 5 years. Probably less.

i love how humans (we, btw) guesses stuff with numbers!

first time i thought about it was when a friend started to talk about % of stuff of himself... i was: tf did you came with these numbers

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Genuinely, we deserve more information about this. Someone needs to whistleblow.

> Reuters was unable to review a copy of the letter. The researchers who wrote the letter did not immediately respond to requests for comment. OpenAI declined to comment. Lol for real, like what are we even doing here?

Multiple people involved in this story think that this could be something that is relevant to everyone on the planet, any hope of it being actually suppressed and no one knowing about it is gone, just leak it so we all know what we're dealing with.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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> OpenAI defines AGI as autonomous systems that surpass humans in most economically valuable tasks.

Are we really defining intelligence as economic value at this point? This is completely ridiculous.

We have yet to decide exactly what human intelligence, how it manifests in the body, or how to reliably measure it. I get that people want to justify developing artificial intelligence before understanding intelligence itself, but now we assume that economic value is a proxy for intelligence? Seriously?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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This article is almost entirely unsourced, citing two anonymous people who are “familiar” with a supposed letter that Reuters has not seen. This does not qualify as news. It doesn’t even rise to the level of informed speculation!

Remember, the people are only anonymous to you. Reuters knows who they are. Familiar with means the sources read it but did not provide it or quote from it. FTA - the letter was sent from researchers to the board. The researchers declined to comment. Who does that leave?

>Remember, the people are only anonymous to you. Reuters knows who they are.

A group of Russian trolls/comedians have been able to cheat Western politicians and journalists into talking with them using deep faked webcam feeds and edited documents.

Most still remember the amount of ridiculous "anonymous source" bullshit stories that were pushed during the Trump years.

Honestly at this point I just assume all "anonymous sources" and the journalists who quote them are lying.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Put this on my tombstone after the robots kill me or whatever, but I think all “AI safety” concerns are a wild overreaction totally out of proportion to the actual capabilities of these models. I just haven’t seen anything in the past year which makes me remotely fearful about the future of humanity, including both our continued existence and our continued employment.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes me wonder if they stumbled onto some emergent behavior with the new Assistants API. You can have an Assistant thread spawn other Assistant threads, each with their own special instructions, plus the ability to execute custom code, reach out to the internet for other data and processing as needed, etc. Basically kicking off a hive mind that overcomes the limitations of a single LLM.

Except this was entirely possible with API, and the dead stupid obvious thing to do , even as far back as OG ChatGPT (pre-GPT-4). Assistants don't seem to introduce anything new here, at least not anything one could trivially make with API access, a Python script, and a credit card. So I don't thing it's this - otherwise someone would've done this long time ago and killed us all. Also not like all the "value adds" fo…

I'd agree that what is available publicly isn't anything that hasn't been in wide discussion for an agent framework since maybe ~march/april of this year, and many people had just hacked together their own version with an agent/RAG pipeline and API to hide their requests behind.

I'm very sure anything revolutionary would have been more of a leap than deeply integrating a agent/RAG pipeline into the OpenAI API. They have the compute...

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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> OpenAI spokesperson Lindsey Held Bolton refuted that notion in a statement shared with The Verge: “Mira told employees what the media reports were about but she did not comment on the accuracy of the information.” > Separately, a person familiar with the matter told The Verge that the board never received a letter about such a breakthrough and that the company’s research progress didn’t play a role in Altman’s sudd…

So we have sources claiming there is a letter, and another source claiming there is not. Feel like some people would need to start going on the record before anything might reasonably be determined from this.

Maybe we should have learned during the Trump years that the media puts no effort into vetting "anonymous sources" or is outright making them up to push lies.
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