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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by ah765 »

nickfromseattle wrote: post #272
ah765 wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Sam's goal is to create AGI, same as most of the other founders of OpenAI. If he just wanted money and power, he probably would have continued with YC or some other startup instead of joining the nonprofit and unproven OpenAI at the time. His opinion on the ideal path differs from Ilya's, but I'm guessing his goal remains the same. AGI is the most important thing to work on, and startups and corporations are…

>I think Sam's goal is to create AGI Supposedly his goal was the same as OpenAi --> AGI that benefits society instead of shareholders. Seems like a hard mission to accomplish within Microsoft.

I imagine Sam's vision, both before and after this company change, is that he'll keep improving GPTs, while also setting up a thriving ecosystem through APIs, and AI will become a trillion dollar industry with him at the center.

From there, maybe someone will come up with the revolutionary advance necessary to reach AGI. It may not necessarily be under his company, but he'll be the super successful AI guy and in a pretty strong position to influence things anyway.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by taspeotis »

hef19898 wrote: post #177
tsunamifury wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He doesn’t have to write down the investment that came in the form of azure credits. He just doesn’t have to deliver. The core thing he is 100% focused on is not having a massive stock drop Monday morning. That’s it that’s his reason to exist all weekend long. After that. He has time to figure it out.

Don't forget, MS has a board as well. One Satya reports to the same way Sam reported to the OpanAI one. Potantially loosong 10 billion is nothing the board will just shrug off.

Yup back pats from the board to Satya. Only 10 billion to get their foot in the door at OpenAI and now they can ransack all their talent. How many billions would it cost to develop that independently? What a saving.

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Post by laurels-marts »

dragonwriter wrote: post #261
tw1984 wrote: post #200

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> OpenAI's board should book themselves for an IQ test, it is just beyond my understanding why they hate their own successful business so much. OpenAI's board doesn't run a business, they run a nonprofit with a mission oriented around safety and public benefit, not private profit. It has a for-profit subsidiary, explicitly subordinated to the nonprofit's mission, as a funding mechanism, but being successful at bringi…

> a nonprofit with a mission oriented around safety

so much wrong in so few words.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by 9dev »

imgabe wrote: post #340
9dev wrote: post #288

I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…

You might notice that Microsoft shareholders are also part of humanity and destroying humanity would be highly detrimental to Microsoft's profits, so maybe their interests are not as misaligned as you think. I am always bemused by how people assume any corporate interest is automatically a cartoon supervillain who wants to destroy the entire world just because.

Ha! Tell that to the species of primates that will happily squeeze even the last ounce of resources from the only habitable planet they have, to enrich said shareholders. Humans are really bad in assessing situations larger than their immediate family, and this is no exception.

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Post by peanuty1 »

threeseed wrote: post #322
CSMastermind wrote: post #166

In 1990 Microsoft hired all of the important talent from Borland who up until that point had been outpacing them in terms of product development. We got Access, Visual Studio, and .Net / C# as a direct result. Borland faded into obscurity. Hard not to feel like there will be a parallel here.

Microsoft also acquired LinkedIn and Github. Both of which have been run as largely seperate entities.

Yep. LinkedIn has a completely different pay scale and perks than regular Microsoft employees.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by BoorishBears »

mirzap wrote: post #331

This was expected. Who would possibly think Sam would join MS to be a "senior research" or "VP of engineering"? They get to form a company and run a startup within Microsoft with full Microsoft backing. OpenAI is so over.

I was expecting MSFT to get a board seat and bring them back tbh
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