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Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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How exactly will he make loads of money if he didn’t have any equity in OpenAI? Or should we assume that was a lie?

You know it's not just about the monetary compensation, that's rather short-sighted. sama is not hurting for cash. Being the CEO of OpenAI, in the climate that we are in, brings with it a lot of exposure and influence.

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Who fires the board at a 501.3c?

I absolutely guarantee you when Microsoft owns 50% that they paid $50,000,000,000 for, that Microsoft is really in charge. The board and Ilya will all be gone within a month.

They're not. They don't have board seats. The mission-driven founders of Open AI were very serious about ensuring this.

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"Greg Brockman works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI." https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...

What Brockman tweets is from technical standpoint the most mundane, boring, and obvious stuff I’ve read from a programmer. My reads of this guy have been he’s not working on any problems that are technically difficult (or interesting). It’s much easier to work long hours on easy problems. He also has a managerial vibe in all communications which supports my feeling. Most programming work in any project and company is…

They said "senior researchers", and I would say a programmer is not a researcher if they spend all their time on programming.

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Most of the time the technology is not building an artificial intelligent computer that is capable of superhuman reasoning. Have you used gpt4? it's reasoning capabilities match human ability. The more you think about it, the more scary the reality becomes. GPT 4 can reason through any mental exercise as well as a human. The rest of the work to make it autonomous is simple in comparison.

> GPT 4 can reason through any mental exercise as well as a human. So can I. And yet, people don't consider me an existential threat. Mostly because I do not have nukes.

Yes but you can't scale your brain by building a bigger womb.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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It's incredible how many of you alleged tech people think that Sam just wanted a world of safe AI while his actions suggest he wanted to make dump trucks of money. He was the one who partnered with Microsoft and turned it from a non-profit to a for-profit company.

Isn’t the for-profit a subsidiary on the non-profit?

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Doomerism when it comes to technology has always been such a weird mindset to me. "oh no, they're gonna take the horses/horse buggies/telegram/landlines away!" "Goddamn, how dare they invent the bigger cannons!?" - Romans, 1453, in Constantinople probably. (One incident where I can use my exempt powers).

its not even that, they have literally one argument and its nanobots

Nanobots are easy and convenient (for a superintelligence). But it's not like they're necessary. ASI can take over the world the old fashioned way, it just takes longer and is harder to explain.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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It's incredible how many of you alleged tech people think that Sam just wanted a world of safe AI while his actions suggest he wanted to make dump trucks of money. He was the one who partnered with Microsoft and turned it from a non-profit to a for-profit company.

It's a stereotypical heuristic I use and maybe wrong, but I can't ever really trust anyone with a bunch of aesthetic plastic surgery.

If you're that much of a narcissist that you'd risk your health to look better, I need to take everything else you do and say with a big grain of salt.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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2024 for OpenAI is looking bleak.

The world needs more truly open source AI models where the success and outcomes do not depend on a single figurehead or a corporation.

The truth or falsity of this statement turns entirely on whether more AI is good or not. You are in agreement with doomers that single figureheads are a weakpoint. That's the point. The disagreement is on whether having massive uncontrollable power widely dispersed is beneficial.
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