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Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by justinclift »

Thorrez wrote: post #307
copperx wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that is so, YouTube should incentivize creators to promote YouTube premium instead of them having to advertise for dubious VPN services.

>instead of them having to advertise for dubious VPN services. Do you think Youtube wants creators to do that? Youtube doesn't get a cut of that revenue, whereas Youtube does get a cut of regular Youtube ad revenue and Premium revenue. Disclosure: I work at Google but not on Youtube, and am just speculating here.

> Do you think Youtube wants creators to do that?

Perhaps Google should think upon how things ended up this way then?

Like, there are some pretty clear problems with Google's approach to (at least) YouTube, and they don't seem to really want to fix them...

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Post by tommiegannert »

cjmcqueen wrote: post #240

I like YouTube Premium. It's worth it. For a bunch of tech people... Wouldn't we see more people wanting to pay for software, a service and intellectual property?

In general, yes. The problem to me is that I really view YouTube as an addictive distraction, rather than value. I pay the TV license because it's the law, even though I never use it. I'm actually slightly looking forward to not being able to/wanting to use YT, so I can spend that time being creative instead.

I think society as a whole will loose out more than its individuals on having this extremely broad (dis)information sharing nixed.

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Post by cuddlyogre »

mvdtnz wrote: post #92
_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

Mate if you get so much value from YouTube that you'll jump through these hoops just to use it without ads, why not just subscribe to premium? Personally it's by far my most bang-for-buck service.

I have no faith that they won't soon start pushing ads on paying subscribers and start offering a premium plus subscription to be ad free again.

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Post by aydyn »

philsnow wrote: post #329
thiht wrote: post #323

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I’m amazed some people would even consider subscribing to Paramount+… why? It’s yet another streaming platform ; arriving way too late in the game, and they don’t even have an interesting catalog. They just seem dead on arriving.

Trek. That's it.

Piracy. It's way simpler.

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Post by TylerE »

graftak wrote: post #334
TylerE wrote: post #106

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I have zero problem paying for premium. I like it when the products I like, you know, survive.

If YouTube dies another party will take their place and hopefully learn from their mistakes. But YouTube won’t fail because it’s backed by Google and they’ll squeeze their monopoly for all that it’s worth.

Competitors DID learn from their mistakes. The problem is they then built not a better YouTube, but Tiktok.

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Post by hkt »

acdha wrote: post #168
hkt wrote: post #155

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Maybe we don't want the business models of data hoarding multibillion dollar corporations to be sustainable. Maybe there are good alternatives that don't rely so much on exploitative practices. Just a thought.

Those are great reasons not to use YouTube. If you’re worried about data mining, your ad blocker has no effect there – you have to stop using YouTube if that bothers you.

Or use it in a way that doesn't give up your data quite so easily. I recommend Minitube for Linux desktop and NewPipe for android.

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Post by hkt »

paulcole wrote: post #291
hkt wrote: post #152

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The data of rich profiles is enormously valuable to Google. They allow Google unparalleled ability to target ads elsewhere, too. That's the game.

OK, but they make YouTube. They make the rules of the game. Pay for it with $$$ or by watching Ads, don’t watch YouTube, or pretend there’s some kind of morality in stealing it.

"Stealing". Bless you, not giving up data while accessing something public is not stealing. Defending yourself against surveillance is morally unambiguous. Society as a whole, across the entire world, needs to start talking about how we support these services in a post-ad-revenue-model world.

I suspect whatever the answer we settle on, it'll be less awful than what exists now.

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Post by m4jor »

silenced_trope wrote: post #55
m4jor wrote: post #3

If you have a VPN with a Ukraine location, you can set it to there and purchase YouTube Premium for ~$2.70/month. That's what I just ended up doing. I use Mullvad as my vpn provider.

do you have to keep using the VPN after doing this? Can i just use proton vpn to make the purchase at that price point? Or do I need to create a separate google account, and then keep accessing YT while using a VPN with Ukraine location?

Nope, just once when purchasing it.

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Post by depereo »

Thorrez wrote: post #305
depereo wrote: post #262

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I had Red through my google play music subscription but then they turned music into a YouTube nonsense app that removed features I liked and tripled the costs. I'd subscribe to YouTube premium if it didn't bundle a music subscription and associated cost.

>tripled the costs. According to this article, when Youtube red was introduced in October 2015, it was $9.99/month. It's now $13.99/month. That's a 40% increase. If you adjust $9.99 in October 2015 for inflation to September 2023, it's $12.93/month. So inflation-adjusted, the price increased 8.2% from 2015 to now. https://www.theverge.com/2015/10/21/9566973/youtube-red-ad-f... https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?…

In my local currency it used to be the equivalent of $5.83 USD, with price increases and exchange rate changes it had tripled by 2019 from when I signed up to google play music in 2013.

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Post by paulcole »

hkt wrote: post #357
paulcole wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, but they make YouTube. They make the rules of the game. Pay for it with $$$ or by watching Ads, don’t watch YouTube, or pretend there’s some kind of morality in stealing it.

"Stealing". Bless you, not giving up data while accessing something public is not stealing. Defending yourself against surveillance is morally unambiguous. Society as a whole, across the entire world, needs to start talking about how we support these services in a post-ad-revenue-model world. I suspect whatever the answer we settle on, it'll be less awful than what exists now.

Like I said. Consider yourself a hero for fighting the good fight or somebody who’s convinced themselves they’re entitled to something they didn’t pay for. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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